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this hope radio for the masses Atlanta

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believe July 8 1947 here on the airport

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through present a start applying this

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has been found and is now in the

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possession of the RA the game is rigged

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changed the game changer I occasionally

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think how quickly our differences

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worldwide would vanish if we were facing

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the GameChanger radio network

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and a GRA

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your help to get to the year 1985

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like with Jimmy judge on the game

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changing Network

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good evening fade to black misspoke

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radio for now

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math says sigh yeah let's do this

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twenty-nine days into the new year just

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336 days left

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we're live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of the beautiful downtown

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Burbank California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer networked in kg ra the

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planet I am your host Amy Church what is

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crack and everybody how you doing oh yes

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oh right cut it before the show during

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the intro as you can see I've got a

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strange habit

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my rings and jewelry before the show and

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my watch I take everything off you

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probably notice that you've seen

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pictures of me out there and you know

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and I wear of things and I always have a

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watch on but I don't like it for the

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show you know what I don't like it

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indoors it's kind of weird right some

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kind of obsessive-compulsive disorder

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that I have with wearing jewelry indoors

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I come down to the bunker and and I take

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everything off and so often say so but I

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don't wear a watch

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just difficult to take off so there you

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go that stuff but but the Rings and the

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why I have to take those off I had a I

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obsessive-compulsive behavior when I was

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a kid at Bell Laboratories and I had a

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you know 35 40 40 years ago 35 years ago

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1981-82 his name was chance and chance

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would walk around chance Schultz was his

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name and a pretty cool guy fired me but

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but you but he would walk around the the

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drafting room the big drafting room and

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he walked past a drawing board of which

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server he would walk by and he would

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knock he couldn't help it he would knock

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boards and I would sit and I would watch

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him you know and he'd walk around in the

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office space right yeah how you doing

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walk on good morning you know and he'd

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trickiest thing and he did it for years

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first exposure to that and when he hears

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hear about somebody you know having to

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hands and they would do these things

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well that's it it's real because I watch

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this guy do it and he couldn't help

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never did and then I was watching true

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the I think it's like AG state attorney

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he gets up to leave the office knocks on

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Schultz back at Bell Laboratories man if

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anybody out there is listening that

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worked at Bell Labs and remembers chance

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Schultz you know exactly what I'm

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talking about you mean email that's a

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you never know who's out there listening

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all right I don't know how I get into

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that oh yeah the Rings so yeah that's my

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little obsessive-compulsive disorder

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thing that I do I can't help it

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whenever I get home right rings watch

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off in the tray and and then when I go

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to leave the house I you know put stuff

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on and I leave in fact I don't even

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think I can drive a car without having a

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I'll be going down the street and I'd

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man you turned I've got to go back I can

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you know Rita knows exactly what I've

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got to go and and put on and then I can

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the house so there you go exit the house

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return watches and rings go on and off

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that's my thing all right where am I at

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it's going to be a great show tonight

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because we have world musician totally a

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woke individual porygon ghee pouring

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ghee is here I cannot wait it's ghee ok

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pour on ghee is here very excited he was

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with us last year because he was playing

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at disclosure fest and we had him on the

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show for about a half an hour played his

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music and talking to him it was such a

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dynamic very brief conversation and we

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show he's been out there doing this

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thing tonight is the first opportunity

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that we've had to get him on with us so

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tonight he is here tomorrow night

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Patrick wood is back with us he's got a

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new book out the hard road to the new

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world order so we will be talking about

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technocracy we're gonna talk 5g man we

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have all of it connected cities we're

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gonna do all of that tomorrow night ok

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it's going to be a great conversation

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with Patrick wood Thursday is another

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Fator night open lines all night long

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very sad whenever I have to announce

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something like this James Ingram one of

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the biggest stars in R&B music in the

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years ago prior to that he hadn't

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McDonald unbelievable James Ingram 66

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policy the British prime minister agreed

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to return to Brussels and reopened

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deal is locked down reading through all

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of the responses today both on the

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brussels side the EU side and the

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British and the Parliament side you use

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understand a whole lot about European

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Europeans do certainly British politics

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confuses confuses me to no end but I

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don't know why but Britain leaving the

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EU it doesn't feel right I don't know I

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don't know and I know it was voted on I

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get it 51% of the British people said

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strange maybe okay I mean does it I mean

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it has to happen right no I'm so

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confused I don't even know how you can

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renegotiate she's been doing it for two

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with the EU how do you renegotiate

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something in three weeks sounds

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impossible to me well also right now

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extreme cold is absolutely torturing

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much of the United States and that looks

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like Minnesota may see wind chills of

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minus 70 degrees so everybody out there

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listening to me now I know it's cold out

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there stay home stay safe and stay warm

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dozens of temperature and wind chill

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records are expected to occur from the

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Dakotas all the way to New York State

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it's absolutely brutal and before

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anybody goes or expects me to say Amen

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what about global warming then is it is

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it real it's it how do we especially

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these last I don't know five or ten

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I don't know I don't know and I know

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about the evidence and I know about that

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and I realize that what are the most

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polarizing things that you can get into

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now you know you've always got racism

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you've got religion you really want to

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pick a fight with somebody

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guaranteed social media this show

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side and then watch it get ugly ice no

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it's that's a rowdy subject and I don't

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even understand it okay so there you go

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that's my take I don't I don't get it I

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don't get either side yeah it's it's

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funny either side both can't be right

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but they both can be wrong that's my

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take all right also today National

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Security Advisor John Bolton has

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threatened the government in Caracas

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Venezuela saying they had better not lay

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a finger on one guide oh it's a guide oh

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god oh god oh it's funny I went out to

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different sites today to get the punts

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and pronunciation they were all

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different so

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guardo guar guar man I can't even say it

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I can't say it but anyway the new guy

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down in Venezuela who Washington

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considers to be Venezuela's president

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today he got a line of credit series

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line of credit to the tune of 7 billion

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dollars they said that only one is going

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to have access to that money Maduro is

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not and Maduro has threatened to shut

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down his access to money and closed his

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bank accounts

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Venezuela so what do you do do you get

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issued a United States issued ATM card

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to seven billion dollars how do you

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spend it how do you anyway five thousand

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troops are on their way to Colombia and

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Colombia says they don't know anything

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about it but let me tell you it's it the

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the the diplomats for the United States

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are staying in Caracas and all of the

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consulates they're all staying down

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there they're not leaving there's that

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part of it the threat has been laid

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Bolton's notepad was laid visible

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obviously for everybody to see you're

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doing a press conference in front of the

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press corps at the White House and

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you're showing your your memo pad like

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that your legal pad with something

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scroll on the top nice and clear and

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you're showing it to all the cameras is

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it Bolton's way of getting the message

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out with have without having to say it

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all right well that seems like it was

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all a planned well and now you just lay

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all of this out you you take their money

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you take the oil money you lock that

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down you give that to the guy that

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you're endorsing and you say don't touch

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him or else it's just like here we go

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here we go and I man I hate to say that

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I called it I never like I never liked

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going there but I did all right and so

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he said today and I'm quoting this is

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John Bolton let me reiterate there will

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be serious consequences for those who

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attempt to subvert democracy and harm

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gathering dot-com all right now I keep

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talking about Bitcoin and I'm not gonna

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stop Bitcoin is continuing its crash

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today dipped into the 33 hundreds I

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didn't check it out right before

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showtime

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but it was still right there a 3390 3380

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3360 yeah yeah think of all of those out

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there

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all of those crypto insiders all of

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those guys that have been tweeting about

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about Bitcoin and and how to go in and

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talk to you into getting in at 4,000

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5,000 6,000 15,000 all right talk to you

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because they knew it's gonna be at a

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hundred thousand before the end of the

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year down to $3,300

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oh man keep holding on man keep holding

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on I know what I'm talking about

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I know whatever everybody else out there

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they don't understand crypto man they

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don't understand the technology man they

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don't understand what's going on yeah

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yeah man if I would have jumped in

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somebody talked me in at six thousand

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yeah don't forget to subscribe to our

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fader not over at our membership section

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can also get if you wish autographed

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hats t-shirts get a private email to me

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that stuff to great membership section

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but you also become an official fate or

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not and I answer every email I do I do

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it's really starting to take up a big

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chunk of my day but I'm doing it

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happy birthday to today rag-and-bone man

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Rory Graham is 34 his song human has 750

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million views one out of ten people on

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planet Earth have watched his video

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human 5.1 million likes

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and the gap bands Charlie Wilson lead

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singer for the Gap Band today is 66

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that's right

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saying that toe-tapper you dropped a

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bomb on me on this day in history OTD

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1996 france stops a nuclear testing

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that's right Jacques Chirac said that is

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the definite end of France's nuclear

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testing program just one day after

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France exploded a nuclear device in the

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South Pacific

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Fator fact stephen pruitt who has made

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more than two million five hundred

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thousand edits to wikipedia articles

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he's edited a third of Wikipedia's

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nearly 5.7 million pages right and has

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generated more than 31,000 original

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articles for Wikipedia in the past 13

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years so if you ever wondered who's the

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dude editing Wikipedia edited your page

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his name is Stephen Pruitt alright

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tonight

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poor Anki is on the show world musician

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fully awoke we are going to discuss

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everything tonight I cannot wait for

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this conversation then tomorrow night

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patrick wood is back thursday is another

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fader night

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open lines all night long and now for

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you know not just yet but we only have

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one call-in number now new phone systems

436
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working pretty happy about that we're

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gonna keep the old numbers for now for

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an emergency but we've got a new number

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seven four seven two two eight two zero

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five one phone call phone lines aren't

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open all right

442
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so earlier today a couple hours before

443
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showtime I got a text from Michael oming

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yep it was one of those messages that

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started out with dude you've got to

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check this out

447
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:01,350
and with a link embedded right and now

448
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:03,330
normally and I know this is gonna sound

449
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:05,970
kind of messed up but normally when I

450
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get something like this no matter what

451
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:09,630
you know the dude you got to check this

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00:24:12,820 --> 00:24:10,110
out

453
00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:12,830
no matter how good the clip maybe I

454
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don't click on it I don't have the time

455
00:24:22,790 --> 00:24:21,150
I get 50 hundred of those a day and I

456
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:22,800
just can't sit and watch every single

457
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:25,410
YouTube video that is sent to me and I'm

458
00:24:31,870 --> 00:24:26,910
just being honest here it's the way it

459
00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:31,880
is but this was from oming so I clicked

460
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and now I talked into you about it it

461
00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:41,640
was good it was scary it was really

462
00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:45,720
scary actually it was a mash-up of Steve

463
00:24:52,910 --> 00:24:48,840
Buscemi and Jennifer Lawrence now I

464
00:24:55,730 --> 00:24:52,920
don't know who made it so I can't give

465
00:24:58,490 --> 00:24:55,740
the appropriate credits to it right now

466
00:25:00,770 --> 00:24:58,500
I wish I could but I can but I'm sure

467
00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:00,780
it's being retweeted right now as I

468
00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:02,880
speak about it and here's the deal

469
00:25:09,290 --> 00:25:05,910
it's called a deep fake so what I would

470
00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:09,300
like now somebody retweeted up here in

471
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:13,260
Twitter so I can retweet the retweet the

472
00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:14,730
Jennifer Lawrence there it is right

473
00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:17,190
there Thank You Arnold pen that was fast

474
00:25:24,340 --> 00:25:22,500
and can I retweet a retweet is that

475
00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:24,350
possible let's see what happens

476
00:25:32,510 --> 00:25:27,480
let's see if that actually goes out it

477
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:32,520
did okay so there there it is and it's

478
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good it's good this is the thing is it

479
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:46,140
funny yeah Steve Buscemi's face on

480
00:25:52,580 --> 00:25:48,600
Jennifer Lawrence's body with Jennifer

481
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:52,590
Lawrence's voice alright okay

482
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:55,049
Golden Globes interview is it cool

483
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that's pretty cool

484
00:26:01,850 --> 00:26:00,029
does it show us what kind of video and

485
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:01,860
graphic technology is out there right

486
00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:06,330
now absolutely it does but for me it's

487
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,200
something more sinister because other

488
00:26:16,190 --> 00:26:12,240
deep fakes that have been posted in the

489
00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:16,200
past were fun but we saw the flaws this

490
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:18,390
new one takes the game up to a new level

491
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:21,600
because this is a mash-up with no

492
00:26:28,370 --> 00:26:24,809
artifacts it's smooth it's amazing it's

493
00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:28,380
perfect and it's real if you didn't know

494
00:26:32,389 --> 00:26:30,840
that it was Buscemi and Lawrence you

495
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:32,399
would have just thought that it was some

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00:26:37,210 --> 00:26:34,770
actress doing a presser for the Golden

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Globes that you had never seen before

498
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:43,679
some hybrid it's that good the first and

499
00:26:51,139 --> 00:26:47,850
in fact most deep fake videos are pretty

500
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:51,149
easy to spot totally fake and most just

501
00:26:57,169 --> 00:26:53,279
thought you know whatever you know Obama

502
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:57,179
Putin you know Trump you know we've seen

503
00:27:03,380 --> 00:27:00,960
all of those right and I almost went

504
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:03,390
with somebody else too and the news got

505
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:05,250
around last year that the porn industry

506
00:27:09,950 --> 00:27:08,010
was doing deep fakes with celebrities

507
00:27:12,169 --> 00:27:09,960
and you know what so we all just kind of

508
00:27:16,639 --> 00:27:12,179
blew it off and it wasn't that it wasn't

509
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:16,649
that good right it was just a funny

510
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:20,809
aspect to it in the wrong hands though

511
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:23,850
this technology and it's already in the

512
00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:27,600
wrong hands for sure video can now be

513
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:29,820
generated it can be released with

514
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anyone's face replace saying whatever

515
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:35,760
and used for any purpose and by the time

516
00:27:40,510 --> 00:27:37,760
we figure out that it's fake

517
00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:40,520
if that ever happens the damage is done

518
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:43,280
the message is sent and here's the

519
00:27:47,770 --> 00:27:45,890
flipside now if a real video was

520
00:27:49,390 --> 00:27:47,780
released that embarrasses or implicates

521
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:49,400
someone now you can just say hey man

522
00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:52,010
it's a deep fake it's a mash-up that

523
00:27:57,370 --> 00:27:55,100
it's not real so we got that issue so by

524
00:28:00,160 --> 00:27:57,380
the time it's proving that it's real or

525
00:28:02,110 --> 00:28:00,170
proven that it's fake it goes through

526
00:28:03,670 --> 00:28:02,120
the flow of the news cycle and if you're

527
00:28:06,010 --> 00:28:03,680
lucky we just move on to the next

528
00:28:09,970 --> 00:28:06,020
mash-up and deep fake and scandal right

529
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:09,980
and this is this is where I have a crazy

530
00:28:14,590 --> 00:28:12,110
thought just when you thought that the

531
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:14,600
fake news being created by teenagers in

532
00:28:21,220 --> 00:28:18,170
Belarus was so last year imagine those

533
00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:21,230
bored little kids now and what they can

534
00:28:26,830 --> 00:28:24,020
do with this kind of software I don't

535
00:28:29,290 --> 00:28:26,840
think the bougie me buscemi Lawrence

536
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:29,300
mash-up was was created by Industrial

537
00:28:33,490 --> 00:28:31,610
Light and Magic has probably done on a

538
00:28:35,950 --> 00:28:33,500
laptop in the living room with some

539
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:35,960
spare time and that to me is what is

540
00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:38,480
truly frightening you got a video of

541
00:28:44,770 --> 00:28:41,920
some crime that was committed right and

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ceremony since birth drawing from his

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about that and one-man orchestra he

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weaves ancestral songs and in in end

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just what tongue-tied indigenous rhythms

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from around the globe creating his

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performances from scratch using looping

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technology his live grooves range from

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meditative to dance party moving the

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body lifting the spirit and transcending

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the divide between performer and

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audience I would like to welcome back to

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fade to black poor anggi how are you man

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great Jimmy thanks for having me man I

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got all tongue-tied I'm nervous a real

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musician coming on the show you know

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this is what's funny yeah I'm sitting

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here wearing a Fender shirt right

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everybody can see it on the video I've

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got all these beautiful guitars behind

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me and I fake it I fake it man it's all

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it's all smoke and mirrors

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I used to be a musician but here's the

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thing and this is where I'm gonna start

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off with you one of the things I've

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produced many albums I've written songs

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I've done my thing with very successful

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artists and and the one thing that I do

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still do today

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is when I listen to somebody that

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impresses me I step back and I wonder

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what is going on in their head were

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these beautiful melodies and these

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things that just transcend time where

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they come from and you my friend take it

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to a whole nother level very complex

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very beautiful very lush and it doesn't

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matter if it's aggressive or it's soft

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if it's world of its dance your stuff is

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very deep and layered and complex where

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does this come from is it easy I'm

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always jealous of it because I I can't

714
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do it but you do is it easy for you to

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to do this yeah is it easy I guess in so

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much as I really look at it more from

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the perspective and so much as I'm able

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to get out of my own way and really

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allow it to move through me rather than

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it being something that I'm generating

721
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but rather something that's just flowing

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through me then it's really easy the

723
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moment I get in my head about it or I

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think about it room like oh that was a

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that was terrible or I was great or

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whatever is the moment I get into my my

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personality my ego and I and I really

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becomes difficult then I start thinking

729
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about you know I I get locked up so for

730
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me my real kind of the edge if you will

731
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and where I feel like the real magic

732
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happens is when I just really let go and

733
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just allow you know I would say spirit

734
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you know I would call it that myself you

735
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wanted to move through me

736
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and that in that in speed ID right that

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ancient word you know inspiration where

738
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inspiration comes from that that inspire

739
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the breath right the way that that comes

740
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out of nothing if you will but it

741
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actually comes from another place

742
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another dimension you might say and

743
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honestly that's in that way as long as

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I'm tapping into that source it's

745
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infinite creativity and it's a river and

746
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so I'm tuning into the muse you know

747
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:51,589
music is this muse this river that flows

748
00:38:55,479 --> 00:38:53,359
I think we all tap into it different

749
00:38:57,309 --> 00:38:55,489
ways but for me that's that's kind of

750
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been my my secret if you will and

751
00:39:00,970 --> 00:38:59,210
actually I try my best to teach and

752
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share that with others because more than

753
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performing honestly for a big audience

754
00:39:06,970 --> 00:39:04,309
one of the things that gets me that the

755
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highest is is watching people you know

756
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from an audience perspective when I see

757
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somebody just who's never really tapped

758
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into music or has been locked up or had

759
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their voice shut down or whatever so see

760
00:39:19,420 --> 00:39:17,030
them connect to that muse and activate

761
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themselves man that's just that really

762
00:39:23,770 --> 00:39:20,690
lights it that's what does it for me

763
00:39:28,210 --> 00:39:23,780
honestly I think you hit onto something

764
00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:28,220
because even with my experience in in

765
00:39:33,340 --> 00:39:30,590
recording a guitar solo or playing

766
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,350
something live or recording another

767
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:36,320
artist when we do the take and they come

768
00:39:42,580 --> 00:39:39,650
back and they go how was that right

769
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:42,590
because they don't remember it and and

770
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:45,350
I'm just like stunned right dude you

771
00:39:52,060 --> 00:39:49,609
know and should we do it again no that

772
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:52,070
was the one and it's because they go

773
00:39:57,580 --> 00:39:54,530
into the zone they're not thinking about

774
00:40:00,160 --> 00:39:57,590
technical issues they let spirit take

775
00:40:03,099 --> 00:40:00,170
over and we hear these comments over and

776
00:40:05,830 --> 00:40:03,109
over again for musicians or they just go

777
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:05,840
to that special place and they're not

778
00:40:11,170 --> 00:40:08,590
thinking right right exactly exactly

779
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:11,180
there's something else at work there and

780
00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:13,250
I think that that's that's the magic and

781
00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:15,560
you know some people call this some you

782
00:40:18,430 --> 00:40:17,270
know people were in the meditation space

783
00:40:21,099 --> 00:40:18,440
or kind of looking more even

784
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:21,109
neurobiology space talk about flow state

785
00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:23,450
right how to get into this creative flow

786
00:40:27,730 --> 00:40:25,430
state kind of like that time when people

787
00:40:29,140 --> 00:40:27,740
when things become timeless those are at

788
00:40:30,580 --> 00:40:29,150
moments when we get into the flow state

789
00:40:31,870 --> 00:40:30,590
generally and it could be doing anything

790
00:40:33,609 --> 00:40:31,880
you know anything from riding a

791
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:33,619
surfboard to you know what I mean when

792
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:34,400
you're when you're playing music

793
00:40:38,410 --> 00:40:36,890
obviously or in our case or when

794
00:40:40,090 --> 00:40:38,420
someone's even just writing you know

795
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:40,100
writing in a journal or writing down

796
00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:42,050
some poetry you get into that space

797
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:44,630
where suddenly time goes away and you

798
00:40:48,580 --> 00:40:45,770
don't eat you go into this other

799
00:40:49,330 --> 00:40:48,590
dimension I'd say you know and when

800
00:40:51,460 --> 00:40:49,340
you're in that place

801
00:40:52,690 --> 00:40:51,470
that's when magic can happen I think

802
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:52,700
that's really one of those unique

803
00:40:58,060 --> 00:40:55,130
redeeming qualities if you will of human

804
00:41:00,099 --> 00:40:58,070
beings and I mean I would venture to say

805
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:00,109
probably other animals and beings have

806
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:02,570
this ability but we just can't perceive

807
00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:04,850
it right but it's pretty incredible

808
00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:07,550
thing that I do feel this it's a gift

809
00:41:10,660 --> 00:41:09,260
that we bring as humanity for all the

810
00:41:12,190 --> 00:41:10,670
the things that we bring that aren't so

811
00:41:14,530 --> 00:41:12,200
great I think that's the one that we

812
00:41:16,570 --> 00:41:14,540
really um the more we can really bring

813
00:41:18,730 --> 00:41:16,580
that to the center focus of why we're

814
00:41:20,260 --> 00:41:18,740
here and what we offer to the world you

815
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:20,270
know creative beauty and bringing Beauty

816
00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:20,480
into

817
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:22,190
was as opposed to all the destruction I

818
00:41:26,140 --> 00:41:24,770
think that's that's a key element and

819
00:41:28,330 --> 00:41:26,150
that's it's kind of what I'm all about

820
00:41:29,740 --> 00:41:28,340
that's what all my musics about and kind

821
00:41:32,650 --> 00:41:29,750
of what I'm a message I really try to

822
00:41:37,390 --> 00:41:32,660
bring forth you know years ago and I'm

823
00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:37,400
gonna go back to around 1990 okay

824
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:39,020
I don't even even know if you were born

825
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:43,250
but let's go back to 1990 and I and the

826
00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:45,920
music world the studio in the recording

827
00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:48,590
world started to see things like MIDI

828
00:41:56,109 --> 00:41:52,790
take hold certain drum machines and the

829
00:41:59,500 --> 00:41:56,119
linndrum started to come in the MPC 1000

830
00:42:04,270 --> 00:41:59,510
and 3000 from Akai came in and the

831
00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:04,280
samplers but what it also introduced it

832
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:06,200
was one thing to replace drums or

833
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:07,910
samples or strings and things like that

834
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:11,510
but what it brought into was a whole

835
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:14,800
nother artistic freedom and creativity

836
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:18,190
for and it wasn't going to take long

837
00:42:23,980 --> 00:42:21,650
before musicians and creative people

838
00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:23,990
started to figure this out and turn it

839
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:28,700
into a new musical genre and now today

840
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:32,720
looping is is out there and some of the

841
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:35,210
most creative stuff goes on with looping

842
00:42:42,130 --> 00:42:39,530
and most most of this audience doesn't

843
00:42:47,730 --> 00:42:42,140
know what you and I are talking about

844
00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:47,740
so let's what is for you what is looping

845
00:42:54,750 --> 00:42:50,920
hmm great question so what is looping

846
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:54,760
man it is it is a universe first of all

847
00:42:58,720 --> 00:42:57,410
some might equate it to the technology

848
00:43:00,609 --> 00:42:58,730
that lets you do this thing but I

849
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:00,619
actually I love the fact so one of the

850
00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:02,210
instruments that I play I play a lot of

851
00:43:08,050 --> 00:43:04,580
them and and I specifically I've I

852
00:43:09,609 --> 00:43:08,060
really am honored and it did I get to

853
00:43:10,750 --> 00:43:09,619
play and have studied and gotten to

854
00:43:12,430 --> 00:43:10,760
experience a lot of indigenous

855
00:43:13,630 --> 00:43:12,440
instruments so a lot of the instruments

856
00:43:15,310 --> 00:43:13,640
I play aren't the things that you go

857
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:15,320
down to Guitar Center and find

858
00:43:20,740 --> 00:43:18,160
necessarily so-so and that's intentional

859
00:43:22,990 --> 00:43:20,750
so one of the main instruments I really

860
00:43:25,450 --> 00:43:23,000
has been a dear Ally to me is the

861
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:25,460
didgeridoo which the Aboriginal people

862
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:27,200
of Australia played and it's arguably

863
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:29,090
the second oldest instrument that we

864
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:32,000
know to humanity after the voice so it's

865
00:43:34,190 --> 00:43:33,440
a really ancient instrument it's just a

866
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,200
too basic

867
00:43:38,089 --> 00:43:36,480
for fro intensive purposes you can find

868
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:38,099
them but traditionally the you know the

869
00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:39,810
Aboriginal people would would make them

870
00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:40,980
or they actually wouldn't make them

871
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:44,099
they'd find them made by termites out of

872
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:45,930
eucalyptus so termites they'd find

873
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:47,760
eucalyptus they'd been hollowed out by

874
00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:48,720
these termites and they would actually

875
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:50,700
come upon it on their walkabout they

876
00:43:53,420 --> 00:43:52,050
would check find one there was a hollow

877
00:43:54,829 --> 00:43:53,430
just the right way they'd break it

878
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:54,839
clean off the mouth you know and they'd

879
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:57,089
play it there in ceremony and in their

880
00:44:01,970 --> 00:44:00,240
creation story they say that creator you

881
00:44:04,190 --> 00:44:01,980
know their creator a version of creator

882
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:04,200
made all of the universe all the animals

883
00:44:07,819 --> 00:44:05,910
every all the beings out of a didgeridoo

884
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:07,829
it was out of that vibration that

885
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:09,930
primordial sound and so what's really

886
00:44:14,270 --> 00:44:12,660
cool about this instrument is that it it

887
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:14,280
requires the person playing it and

888
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,810
enables them to do something known as

889
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:17,280
circular breathing or I like to call

890
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:18,810
spiral breathing because it moves

891
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:20,730
through time right and this and this

892
00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:23,010
technique if you sit down and check it

893
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:26,070
out it's the original looper right they

894
00:44:30,140 --> 00:44:28,170
were able to create this drone sound the

895
00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:30,150
sound this ongoing sound almost like

896
00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:33,000
this infinite breath so what the

897
00:44:39,319 --> 00:44:36,119
audience understand you are pushing air

898
00:44:41,690 --> 00:44:39,329
out through the didgeridoo and breathing

899
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:41,700
in through your nose filling your lungs

900
00:44:48,020 --> 00:44:45,119
back up and while you're the reservoir

901
00:44:50,809 --> 00:44:48,030
is in your mouth pushing the air a very

902
00:44:53,569 --> 00:44:50,819
difficult technique to master yeah but

903
00:44:56,540 --> 00:44:53,579
if you do it right and you can stay

904
00:44:58,579 --> 00:44:56,550
awake you could play a note for 24 hours

905
00:45:00,440 --> 00:44:58,589
you could you could go infinitely

906
00:45:02,359 --> 00:45:00,450
exactly you have my original looper man

907
00:45:04,010 --> 00:45:02,369
no nothing needed but a hollow tube in

908
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:04,020
your breath which is pretty incredible

909
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:06,329
and now and as you're saying just to

910
00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:08,310
clarify for the listeners you know so

911
00:45:12,020 --> 00:45:10,440
you're you're keeping air is always in

912
00:45:13,849 --> 00:45:12,030
your cheeks so if you think of a bagpipe

913
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:13,859
if most people have seen a bagpipe you

914
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:15,300
know there's a bellows and that bellows

915
00:45:18,380 --> 00:45:17,130
is like the bladder that the bagpipe

916
00:45:20,420 --> 00:45:18,390
player has under their arm and they're

917
00:45:22,130 --> 00:45:20,430
squeezing that and that's keeping the

918
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:22,140
air kind of pressure going out and

919
00:45:25,579 --> 00:45:24,000
making the drone sing and then they're

920
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:25,589
blowing refilling it constantly by

921
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:27,450
breathing and blowing that into the

922
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:28,890
bladder and keeping it full at all times

923
00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:30,510
but there's always pressure on the

924
00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:32,040
bladder right so in this case with the

925
00:45:35,329 --> 00:45:33,660
didge that's happening all in your

926
00:45:37,370 --> 00:45:35,339
cheeks and so the muscles of your cheeks

927
00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:37,380
are squeezing that air out while you

928
00:45:40,819 --> 00:45:39,390
sniff in at the same time that's the the

929
00:45:43,490 --> 00:45:40,829
new thing that we usually don't do in

930
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:43,500
typical breathing but what's incredible

931
00:45:46,010 --> 00:45:44,640
about this instrument is you know

932
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,020
there's all these health benefits it

933
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:47,520
turns out there's actually been clinical

934
00:45:50,059 --> 00:45:48,089
studies show

935
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:50,069
but more effective than surgery for

936
00:45:54,439 --> 00:45:51,839
sleep apnea for anyone out there snores

937
00:45:55,069 --> 00:45:54,449
and it's fun so you should definitely

938
00:45:57,229 --> 00:45:55,079
get a didge

939
00:45:59,420 --> 00:45:57,239
if you don't have one and or just get a

940
00:46:01,370 --> 00:45:59,430
PVC tube you know and put some beeswax

941
00:46:03,289 --> 00:46:01,380
at the end of it and and there's even a

942
00:46:06,349 --> 00:46:03,299
Hoover II do if you YouTube that I've

943
00:46:09,049 --> 00:46:06,359
seen those yeah I've seen those

944
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:09,059
so anyways going back to the loopers so

945
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:11,249
so it's been around for a long time and

946
00:46:15,380 --> 00:46:12,930
what's really cool is that the

947
00:46:18,170 --> 00:46:15,390
technology then now fast-forward right

948
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:18,180
into taking fire our ancestor right this

949
00:46:22,009 --> 00:46:20,130
ancient technology of fire that humans

950
00:46:23,630 --> 00:46:22,019
first have learned to cultivate and now

951
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:23,640
you take that fast-forward to our little

952
00:46:27,769 --> 00:46:25,890
you know devices all these computers and

953
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:27,779
these chips and you know they're putting

954
00:46:31,099 --> 00:46:29,609
off heat just like fire so I look at it

955
00:46:33,049 --> 00:46:31,109
as an evolution of fire when you think

956
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:33,059
about it it's that technology kind of

957
00:46:37,969 --> 00:46:35,579
fast forwarded and so here I am with

958
00:46:40,249 --> 00:46:37,979
this technology where it enables me

959
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:40,259
basically to take these sounds and to

960
00:46:43,189 --> 00:46:41,729
record them in the moment of the

961
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:43,199
performance the channel whatever's

962
00:46:47,329 --> 00:46:45,599
coming through to lay it down say in a

963
00:46:49,189 --> 00:46:47,339
certain number of bars you know it's a

964
00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:49,199
certain phrase a musical expression and

965
00:46:53,209 --> 00:46:51,630
then it will repeat that for me and then

966
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:53,219
I can layer another layer on top of that

967
00:46:57,410 --> 00:46:54,569
and then another layer in another layer

968
00:46:59,569 --> 00:46:57,420
and you know infinitely and essentially

969
00:47:01,880 --> 00:46:59,579
then this it's becomes this new

970
00:47:04,009 --> 00:47:01,890
instrument where I'm basically then

971
00:47:07,339 --> 00:47:04,019
taking that instrument and acting like a

972
00:47:09,439 --> 00:47:07,349
producer sound engineer and an arranger

973
00:47:11,809 --> 00:47:09,449
you know song you know singer song or

974
00:47:13,669 --> 00:47:11,819
singer-songwriter and I'm recomposing

975
00:47:15,439 --> 00:47:13,679
arranging it as I perform with it so I'm

976
00:47:17,209 --> 00:47:15,449
interacting with this new instrument

977
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:17,219
with all these layers of sounds that

978
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:19,529
I've made right there on the fly and so

979
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:21,209
there's this really beautiful element of

980
00:47:24,349 --> 00:47:22,650
you know where you you're not just a

981
00:47:26,269 --> 00:47:24,359
musician you have to kind of really

982
00:47:27,439 --> 00:47:26,279
understand sound engineering to do it

983
00:47:29,809 --> 00:47:27,449
well I mean there's you could do it

984
00:47:32,179 --> 00:47:29,819
whatever but to do it well you really

985
00:47:33,439 --> 00:47:32,189
got to know how to mic things how to EQ

986
00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:33,449
things how to compress things how to

987
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:35,640
make it shine so that when you're up

988
00:47:39,319 --> 00:47:37,410
there that actually translates and

989
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:39,329
people aren't like my goal whenever I'm

990
00:47:42,799 --> 00:47:40,890
doing this by the way is to really have

991
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:42,809
the technology almost be invisible like

992
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:43,890
I don't want to people even really to

993
00:47:47,029 --> 00:47:45,689
notice that that's happening a lot of

994
00:47:48,769 --> 00:47:47,039
people are all like oh you playing with

995
00:47:51,140 --> 00:47:48,779
backing tracks and I'm like no actually

996
00:47:52,819 --> 00:47:51,150
I made all that and so it's a really

997
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:52,829
interesting thing for me is like because

998
00:47:55,969 --> 00:47:54,209
for me the most important thing is the

999
00:47:57,949 --> 00:47:55,979
connection to the audience you know and

1000
00:47:59,269 --> 00:47:57,959
really in connection to source and so if

1001
00:48:00,979 --> 00:47:59,279
I'm being that channel like I was

1002
00:48:01,319 --> 00:48:00,989
talking about letting that River move

1003
00:48:03,209 --> 00:48:01,329
through me

1004
00:48:04,799 --> 00:48:03,219
then the technology is just I'm using

1005
00:48:06,989 --> 00:48:04,809
this answer you know this kind of

1006
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:06,999
evolution of fire to weave these

1007
00:48:10,589 --> 00:48:08,529
instruments you know from our ancestors

1008
00:48:12,329 --> 00:48:10,599
from all these indigenous all our First

1009
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:12,339
Nations all the peoples that we all come

1010
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:14,079
from wherever we came from and then

1011
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,609
bringing that into the now into the

1012
00:48:19,019 --> 00:48:17,440
present moment it's like how people kind

1013
00:48:21,029 --> 00:48:19,029
of be more in the present and that's

1014
00:48:22,949 --> 00:48:21,039
really I think where the magic set so so

1015
00:48:24,449 --> 00:48:22,959
looking for me is almost a spiritual

1016
00:48:26,729 --> 00:48:24,459
practice I could say I guess when I

1017
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:26,739
think about it and I say this to you you

1018
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:28,329
know it's it's really an invitation of

1019
00:48:33,059 --> 00:48:30,729
how to how to work with with the

1020
00:48:35,069 --> 00:48:33,069
elements you know and to bring them into

1021
00:48:38,339 --> 00:48:35,079
this this really fresh way in the

1022
00:48:39,779 --> 00:48:38,349
present moment let me let me jump in I'm

1023
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:39,789
gonna ask a couple of difficult

1024
00:48:46,499 --> 00:48:43,390
questions but that are honest questions

1025
00:48:48,569 --> 00:48:46,509
did you start looping because you

1026
00:48:51,779 --> 00:48:48,579
couldn't find other musicians to play

1027
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:51,789
with right you know what I'm asking

1028
00:48:56,819 --> 00:48:55,089
right absolutely absolutely so let me

1029
00:49:00,089 --> 00:48:56,829
tell you that quick story it's hilarious

1030
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:00,099
so a dear friend of mine and musical

1031
00:49:04,049 --> 00:49:01,450
partner and brother his name's Eric

1032
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:04,059
Tsang and we and he and I were in a duo

1033
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:06,910
we had a world music kind of duo band

1034
00:49:11,130 --> 00:49:09,369
and we did it all we still used Ableton

1035
00:49:12,359 --> 00:49:11,140
Live in the shows but for effects and

1036
00:49:14,819 --> 00:49:12,369
stuff but we made only used it as a

1037
00:49:16,410 --> 00:49:14,829
mixer and then we would basically play

1038
00:49:17,849 --> 00:49:16,420
all these instruments live he's also a

1039
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,859
multi-instrumentalist an incredible

1040
00:49:21,479 --> 00:49:19,599
master musician and so we would just

1041
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:21,489
like create the band right there with

1042
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:23,920
all our limbs holding it down no looping

1043
00:49:27,809 --> 00:49:26,559
and and basically what happened was Eric

1044
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:27,819
had delete he decided to go on

1045
00:49:31,019 --> 00:49:29,170
sabbatical he wanted to go back to

1046
00:49:32,969 --> 00:49:31,029
Turkey and study some of the instruments

1047
00:49:35,309 --> 00:49:32,979
that he's he's an amazing player on and

1048
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:35,319
so he had to leave and so he left and

1049
00:49:39,479 --> 00:49:37,569
kind of I was there kind of at this like

1050
00:49:41,099 --> 00:49:39,489
okay what do I do now and sure enough I

1051
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:41,109
get this call for this gig and it's this

1052
00:49:45,209 --> 00:49:43,119
big gig down at Desert Botanical Gardens

1053
00:49:47,849 --> 00:49:45,219
of Phoenix and pays really well and it's

1054
00:49:50,130 --> 00:49:47,859
a major gig like 21 nights in a row

1055
00:49:51,269 --> 00:49:50,140
right and I was like oh man I got to do

1056
00:49:53,549 --> 00:49:51,279
this gig and they're like yeah we want

1057
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:53,559
to book you can you do this and I'm like

1058
00:49:57,420 --> 00:49:55,930
well you know let me see who I can book

1059
00:49:59,279 --> 00:49:57,430
who I can get to do it with me and

1060
00:50:01,170 --> 00:49:59,289
they're like oh no no no we just want

1061
00:50:03,539 --> 00:50:01,180
you and I was like you just want me to

1062
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:03,549
do it and they're like yeah and and so I

1063
00:50:07,529 --> 00:50:05,529
literally had to think about how am I

1064
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:07,539
gonna play for 21 nights in a row for

1065
00:50:12,209 --> 00:50:09,729
hours and night 2,000 people walking

1066
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:12,219
through this Gardens right and keep my

1067
00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:14,049
vocal cords alive and like you know

1068
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:14,980
through the winter

1069
00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:17,200
December and I'm like what am I gonna do

1070
00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:19,960
you know so then literally I was like I

1071
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:21,580
gotta figure out this looping thing I'd

1072
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:22,930
see like it's the only thing I thought

1073
00:50:24,930 --> 00:50:23,410
so

1074
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:24,940
I literally took the credit card went

1075
00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:27,520
down but you know what did you buy what

1076
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:30,460
do you use well the first pedal I got

1077
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:32,410
for loop right I looked everywhere high

1078
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:34,930
and low but the most robust pedal to

1079
00:50:41,250 --> 00:50:38,400
date that I found it is a build quality

1080
00:50:44,550 --> 00:50:41,260
you know decent sound not great sound is

1081
00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:44,560
the the boss RC 300 yep it's it's a 3

1082
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:46,150
you know there's three loopers basically

1083
00:50:50,220 --> 00:50:48,250
built into one and a basic little like

1084
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:50,230
mixer interface and but it's very simple

1085
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:52,330
and it kind of just does what it does

1086
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:53,830
and it does it you know

1087
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:55,690
well mostly reliable I've definitely

1088
00:50:59,970 --> 00:50:58,210
pushed its limits and and I'm actually

1089
00:51:02,010 --> 00:50:59,980
actively right now as we speak like

1090
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:02,020
tonight before I got on this call Eric's

1091
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:03,280
here and we're actually working on my

1092
00:51:06,990 --> 00:51:04,450
new rig which is going to be using

1093
00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:07,000
Ableton Live it's a whole other store we

1094
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:08,740
can get into if you like but I'm working

1095
00:51:12,420 --> 00:51:10,210
on a prototype with this other guy who's

1096
00:51:14,490 --> 00:51:12,430
designing a new MIDI controller that can

1097
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:14,500
control Ableton just like hardware so

1098
00:51:19,290 --> 00:51:16,210
it's it's kind of revolutionary with no

1099
00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:19,300
dough with no delays with no delays see

1100
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:22,630
now okay so for the audience let me

1101
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:27,160
simplify this a little bit which is this

1102
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:33,310
so what pongy does is he'll play some

1103
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:34,000
music

1104
00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:37,450
he'll hit a record button it'll be I'm

1105
00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:39,900
assuming it's a footswitch he hits that

1106
00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:43,630
it starts to record he gets to the end

1107
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:48,790
of the cycle or bar or the measure he'll

1108
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:51,520
hit the button and stop recording and

1109
00:51:56,070 --> 00:51:54,010
then it'll start playing over and that

1110
00:51:59,040 --> 00:51:56,080
plays in a loop every time it gets to

1111
00:52:01,650 --> 00:51:59,050
the end it starts over then he is able

1112
00:52:03,180 --> 00:52:01,660
to go to the next section play a

1113
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:03,190
different instrument or the same

1114
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:06,490
instrument play in a company that which

1115
00:52:12,210 --> 00:52:09,280
he just recorded hit the foot switch

1116
00:52:15,710 --> 00:52:12,220
again or start recording over that and

1117
00:52:18,210 --> 00:52:15,720
now I get to the end a stop recording

1118
00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:18,220
switch an instrument now you're hearing

1119
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:20,950
two of him playing against each other

1120
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:23,050
and then he can move on and then

1121
00:52:28,290 --> 00:52:26,890
continue the layer and and so you have a

1122
00:52:31,890 --> 00:52:28,300
complete ban

1123
00:52:34,140 --> 00:52:31,900
in the end and if you do it right you

1124
00:52:36,810 --> 00:52:34,150
can have as many loops playing on top of

1125
00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:36,820
each other as you want and it turns into

1126
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:39,070
this this or this Orchestra this multi

1127
00:52:46,290 --> 00:52:42,510
piece band and that's what looping is

1128
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:46,300
and so you're hoping now okay before we

1129
00:52:56,010 --> 00:52:51,210
get to the break how long is a standard

1130
00:52:57,810 --> 00:52:56,020
arrangement for you live oh gosh it

1131
00:52:59,490 --> 00:52:57,820
really can vary but I would say anywhere

1132
00:53:01,890 --> 00:52:59,500
from five minutes on the short end

1133
00:53:04,530 --> 00:53:01,900
anywhere to I mean I do almost like a DJ

1134
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,540
set where I can mix kind of take one

1135
00:53:07,890 --> 00:53:06,400
element that keeps going and then switch

1136
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:07,900
into other ones and build into a whole

1137
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,730
new song right I don't so it's kind of

1138
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:11,920
seamless right I create like ecstatic

1139
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:13,510
dance journeys you know for these four

1140
00:53:16,770 --> 00:53:15,010
festivals and things like that where

1141
00:53:18,030 --> 00:53:16,780
I'll play right up next to DJs and

1142
00:53:19,740 --> 00:53:18,040
they'll be like what you just did that

1143
00:53:22,590 --> 00:53:19,750
all live I'm like yeah that's so

1144
00:53:24,210 --> 00:53:22,600
technically not even pause yeah I can

1145
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:24,220
just create exactly and just kind of

1146
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:26,530
keep layering and morphing the sounds

1147
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:28,450
and changing instruments so that just

1148
00:53:32,550 --> 00:53:30,250
one piece goes into the next yeah change

1149
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:32,560
the the field go from like a 4/4 field

1150
00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:34,570
to like a 6/8 you know and give it like

1151
00:53:38,940 --> 00:53:37,000
a triplet or more tribal feel go into it

1152
00:53:41,220 --> 00:53:38,950
yeah and go into an ambient thing break

1153
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:41,230
down it's kind of it's amazing it's like

1154
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:43,450
sonic play-doh if you will oh it's

1155
00:53:48,420 --> 00:53:46,330
totally that totally that and it's also

1156
00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:48,430
reflective of your mood too as well

1157
00:53:53,610 --> 00:53:51,670
going into the performance wherever you

1158
00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:53,620
are in that headspace is where this is

1159
00:53:56,580 --> 00:53:55,750
gonna go and it will change organically

1160
00:53:59,220 --> 00:53:56,590
from night tonight

1161
00:54:04,260 --> 00:53:59,230
now okay now here's the next difficult

1162
00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:04,270
question could you play in a band now do

1163
00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:06,550
you care about that I mean you know I'd

1164
00:54:10,110 --> 00:54:08,470
love I love playing with other musicians

1165
00:54:12,690 --> 00:54:10,120
I mean there's there's one things like

1166
00:54:14,970 --> 00:54:12,700
it's like looping is amazing and there

1167
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:14,980
is no substitute for having a freaking

1168
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:17,410
band of amazing players who have big

1169
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:18,880
ears and are all really paying attention

1170
00:54:23,070 --> 00:54:21,310
and can like go with you now I will say

1171
00:54:26,070 --> 00:54:23,080
this I directed it's the 10 piece

1172
00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:26,080
Brazilian band for gosh nine ten years

1173
00:54:31,140 --> 00:54:28,750
so I I've definitely I've put in my time

1174
00:54:33,150 --> 00:54:31,150
directing and running bands I've taught

1175
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:33,160
big community groups with batucada and

1176
00:54:36,420 --> 00:54:34,960
like Brazilian ensembles because I've

1177
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:36,430
taught that for many years as a

1178
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:38,770
percussion and and I tell you what it's

1179
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:40,930
it's amazing I mean the energy when I've

1180
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:41,470
got all

1181
00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:43,810
players and we're just tight and ripping

1182
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:45,640
through music and beats and whole

1183
00:54:49,650 --> 00:54:47,290
audience is freaking out like there's

1184
00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:49,660
just something that you never can I mean

1185
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:51,849
as much as the looping is amazing like I

1186
00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:53,170
can create some big sounds and

1187
00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:54,760
definitely big festival systems like

1188
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:57,369
you're not missing the band but there's

1189
00:55:01,530 --> 00:54:59,200
something about like having all this

1190
00:55:02,250 --> 00:55:01,540
place now but you're saying no is what

1191
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:02,260
you're saying

1192
00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:04,690
you don't you don't need to go and play

1193
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:06,790
with the band you got your Yaya's out

1194
00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:09,760
it's okay to say no no we'll check it

1195
00:55:14,190 --> 00:55:11,560
out let me just say this here's the

1196
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:14,200
caveat right long as the catch is that

1197
00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:16,510
is that when I had my big band right and

1198
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:18,430
I'm playing with these guys if because

1199
00:55:22,170 --> 00:55:20,710
I'm like I love improvisation you know I

1200
00:55:24,089 --> 00:55:22,180
lived like Bobby McFerrin

1201
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:24,099
I don't you know that guy oh absolutely

1202
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:27,040
yeah so Bobby's a huge mentor of mine

1203
00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:28,960
and a friend and you know I've gotten to

1204
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:31,270
go and study with him actually and he's

1205
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:34,330
he's like I'm all about improvisation he

1206
00:55:38,010 --> 00:55:35,920
has been a real inspiration for that for

1207
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:38,020
me and so like I hate to do things that

1208
00:55:40,890 --> 00:55:39,310
I do everything like I don't want to

1209
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:40,900
repeat stuff man it's like for me that's

1210
00:55:45,390 --> 00:55:43,570
dead and so you gotta understand so I

1211
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:45,400
used to rehearse this band right and

1212
00:55:48,990 --> 00:55:46,930
everyone knew all these pieces all these

1213
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:49,000
licks and all the breaks and stuff but

1214
00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:50,730
then I'd get on stage and I wanted I'd

1215
00:55:55,050 --> 00:55:53,260
surprise everybody and they'd all be

1216
00:55:57,089 --> 00:55:55,060
like oh crap you know what I knees gonna

1217
00:56:00,270 --> 00:55:57,099
know you know he's good doing that thing

1218
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:00,280
right their faces get a little like oh

1219
00:56:04,380 --> 00:56:02,290
no now what so everyone's like eyes are

1220
00:56:06,089 --> 00:56:04,390
on me and now the thing is is like with

1221
00:56:07,950 --> 00:56:06,099
a big band it's like you're trying to

1222
00:56:09,570 --> 00:56:07,960
hang a hard left with like an aircraft

1223
00:56:11,220 --> 00:56:09,580
carrier you know what I'm saying yeah

1224
00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:11,230
and so you you gotta really make sure

1225
00:56:14,670 --> 00:56:12,790
okay everybody are you like you ready

1226
00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:14,680
here we go like you know what I mean you

1227
00:56:18,359 --> 00:56:16,390
try to keep all the no one from falling

1228
00:56:20,609 --> 00:56:18,369
off the aircraft carriers are turning

1229
00:56:22,740 --> 00:56:20,619
now when I'm looping like what I do is

1230
00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:22,750
like I completely respond man to the

1231
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:24,580
energy in the audience so if I see the

1232
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:25,839
crowd is feeling something or

1233
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:27,760
something's just going you know I need

1234
00:56:32,310 --> 00:56:29,410
to make a hard turn or change something

1235
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:32,320
I can just do that and it's so fast and

1236
00:56:36,329 --> 00:56:33,760
I can respond to the energy so much

1237
00:56:37,950 --> 00:56:36,339
faster than I can then if I were in a

1238
00:56:40,170 --> 00:56:37,960
band and I think that's something that I

1239
00:56:41,609 --> 00:56:40,180
was able to do in a duo with my with my

1240
00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:41,619
brother and my friend Eric saying I was

1241
00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:43,390
thinking about because he has huge ears

1242
00:56:47,970 --> 00:56:45,849
and he's just an intuitive like that but

1243
00:56:49,770 --> 00:56:47,980
it's rare you can find guys they can all

1244
00:56:51,150 --> 00:56:49,780
hang on when you're when you're moving

1245
00:56:53,220 --> 00:56:51,160
like that that makes sense so that's

1246
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:53,230
that's kind of my dance with it if that

1247
00:56:56,970 --> 00:56:54,370
if that makes sense

1248
00:56:57,930 --> 00:56:56,980
now we've got about 90 seconds before

1249
00:57:02,610 --> 00:56:57,940
the break

1250
00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:02,620
now what about do you have like a hit

1251
00:57:08,940 --> 00:57:05,560
song in that do you have a song that

1252
00:57:12,990 --> 00:57:08,950
people expect to hear from you and that

1253
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:13,000
is in some kind of you know format an

1254
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:15,490
idea going in with with written lyrics

1255
00:57:24,210 --> 00:57:20,400
and and and and a melody that is written

1256
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:24,220
you yes and no I would almost say more

1257
00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:26,950
no now like I'll do a couple like little

1258
00:57:29,610 --> 00:57:28,390
covers like things that people are a

1259
00:57:31,230 --> 00:57:29,620
little more familiar without everyone

1260
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:31,240
saw bust-out something like that just

1261
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:32,890
because people need that sometimes to

1262
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:34,570
get like you know okay this isn't too

1263
00:57:45,150 --> 00:57:42,480
foreign to me but my bird do there but I

1264
00:57:46,980 --> 00:57:45,160
always man my thing is really letting it

1265
00:57:48,780 --> 00:57:46,990
be channeled and let it just be really

1266
00:57:50,580 --> 00:57:48,790
fresh so almost to the point where it's

1267
00:57:52,380 --> 00:57:50,590
like I want the audience to really

1268
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:52,390
create it with me it's really about the

1269
00:57:56,730 --> 00:57:54,730
co-creation and not like a spectator

1270
00:57:58,620 --> 00:57:56,740
sport if that makes sense like surely I

1271
00:57:59,580 --> 00:57:58,630
Knight and I tell people that I'll like

1272
00:58:01,530 --> 00:57:59,590
right in the middle I'll be like okay

1273
00:58:03,390 --> 00:58:01,540
I'm gonna show you guys a hand clap help

1274
00:58:04,890 --> 00:58:03,400
me out of here or I'll teach people like

1275
00:58:07,170 --> 00:58:04,900
a certain how to make a sound with their

1276
00:58:09,630 --> 00:58:07,180
mouth or whatever and I'll loop that

1277
00:58:12,210 --> 00:58:09,640
I'll get that in the sound so it's part

1278
00:58:14,850 --> 00:58:12,220
of like what generates this new song do

1279
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:14,860
you know why do you play any guitar I do

1280
00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:17,710
yeah I also play guitar acoustic more

1281
00:58:22,410 --> 00:58:20,350
kind of like classical style not so much

1282
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:22,420
electric but but ya know I love guitar

1283
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:24,130
although I honestly I leave it at home

1284
00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:26,410
nowadays because with all the gear that

1285
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:28,660
I already bring the chudd angle it ends

1286
00:58:32,490 --> 00:58:29,890
up being my go-to because it's so small

1287
00:58:33,180 --> 00:58:32,500
and it can go on the plane right right

1288
00:58:35,700 --> 00:58:33,190
right right

1289
00:58:37,950 --> 00:58:35,710
yeah it's practical kind of thing so

1290
00:58:40,590 --> 00:58:37,960
well let's take a break right here this

1291
00:58:42,510 --> 00:58:40,600
is okay we got the music side out we'll

1292
00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:42,520
don't worry everybody that they're

1293
00:58:47,370 --> 00:58:45,160
hoping that I'm done talking about music

1294
00:58:52,890 --> 00:58:47,380
you should see they are literally

1295
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:52,900
tweeting pictures of the RC 300 the boss

1296
00:58:56,850 --> 00:58:54,880
this is fade to black I'm your host

1297
00:58:59,220 --> 00:58:56,860
Jimmy Church our guest tonight brought

1298
00:59:00,660 --> 00:58:59,230
on ghee and we are talking music but

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00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:00,670
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00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:03,880
about the disclosure we're gonna talk

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00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:06,760
about what it's like to be woke in 2019

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00:59:11,690 --> 00:59:07,890
like he is

1304
00:59:14,269 --> 00:59:11,700
and and how how all of us can affect

1305
00:59:16,130 --> 00:59:14,279
change on this planet it's gonna be a

1306
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:16,140
great conversation tonight stay right

1307
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:16,559
there

1308
00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:18,450
I'll be right back after this short

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Ray sobs here repping the planet and

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you're listening to my good friend Jimmy

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Church fade to black

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on the game changer network and the kgr

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a digital broadcast station this is Toby

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Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy Church

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and I'm Ari Gold where the honey

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brothers and you're listening to Jimmy

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this is Jimmy Church of fade to black

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and you can become an official fade or

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not by just going to our membership

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hey it's grace can we talk about

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something serious for a minute your age

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getting old has its perks but remember

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being a few years younger you know your

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hair was thicker you didn't have so many

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wrinkles that extra weight wasn't

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haunting you and you just felt better

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well we can't turn back the clocks and

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go back 10 or 15 years but you can start

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feeling and looking 10 or 15 years

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younger with nature's youth RSF it's a

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imagine sleeping better looking better

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and feeling better

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see how Nature's youth RSF has helped

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imagine how it will feel when your

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family and friends are asking you what

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youth calm that's nature's youth calm

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hello this is Serena right kayla from

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conscious life Expo and you're listening

1411
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:15,640
to fade to black with Jimmy Church who

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01:04:23,010 --> 01:04:17,890
holds the lucky pony record for the best

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astrological chart since 1963 true story

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this is Micah Hanks of the graylien

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report and you're listening to Jimmy

1416
01:04:30,790 --> 01:04:29,080
church on fade to black across the globe

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01:04:33,310 --> 01:04:30,800
on the GameChanger radio network

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01:04:34,370 --> 01:04:33,320
and the one-and-only kgr a radio the

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planet

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[Applause]

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01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:54,000
[Music]

1423
01:04:59,250 --> 01:04:56,170
all right welcome back fade to black I

1424
01:05:02,340 --> 01:04:59,260
am your host Jimmy Church I guess

1425
01:05:04,620 --> 01:05:02,350
tonight poor on geek world musician

1426
01:05:08,099 --> 01:05:04,630
awoke we've got a lot to talk about

1427
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:08,109
tonight I do want to say that in my

1428
01:05:14,849 --> 01:05:12,130
little opening rant tonight or at the

1429
01:05:18,420 --> 01:05:14,859
beginning top of the show I mentioned my

1430
01:05:20,370 --> 01:05:18,430
boss at Bell Labs a chance Schultz and

1431
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:20,380
you never know who's listening to the

1432
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:22,410
show I got an email from Diane and she

1433
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:26,050
sent me his obituary and there it is

1434
01:05:35,099 --> 01:05:28,450
right there chance lived to the age of

1435
01:05:37,290 --> 01:05:35,109
83 passed away in 2013 and right here in

1436
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:37,300
his obituary it says that he was a

1437
01:05:43,470 --> 01:05:40,240
drafting supervisor at Bell Labs AT&T

1438
01:05:46,140 --> 01:05:43,480
from 1956 to 1985 so he retired I

1439
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:46,150
thought that he would write after I left

1440
01:05:50,730 --> 01:05:48,490
Bell Labs but there it is right there

1441
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:50,740
chance Schultz Thank You Diane for

1442
01:05:56,670 --> 01:05:53,770
sending that to me and there you go see

1443
01:05:58,590 --> 01:05:56,680
I respond to email I even do it during

1444
01:06:01,140 --> 01:05:58,600
the show so pongy if you write me an

1445
01:06:04,349 --> 01:06:01,150
email right now I might write you back

1446
01:06:08,820 --> 01:06:06,750
that's like ultimate multitasking right

1447
01:06:12,660 --> 01:06:08,830
there yeah you know I love it so much

1448
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:12,670
the audience is so big and I really I

1449
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:14,530
really you never know who's listening

1450
01:06:20,730 --> 01:06:17,530
out there right you just never know like

1451
01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:20,740
right now if you mention your eighth

1452
01:06:26,220 --> 01:06:23,369
grade music teacher right now on the air

1453
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:26,230
I'm gonna get email about it it isn't

1454
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:31,450
too forward to you I knew her well you

1455
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:32,770
know you were saying people were already

1456
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:35,410
a messaging about the RC 300 let me tell

1457
01:06:41,460 --> 01:06:37,450
you guys you should look up this guy

1458
01:06:42,990 --> 01:06:41,470
look up data looper dat a looper that's

1459
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:43,000
the prototype that I'm working on he

1460
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:44,770
just said an IndieGoGo super successful

1461
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:47,410
and he's making these pedals now that we

1462
01:06:52,260 --> 01:06:49,090
can control Ableton like a hardware

1463
01:06:53,970 --> 01:06:52,270
looper it's it's revolutionary so that's

1464
01:06:54,990 --> 01:06:53,980
the cutting edge basically so if anyone

1465
01:06:57,060 --> 01:06:55,000
wants to see something that's really

1466
01:07:02,070 --> 01:06:57,070
badass I really recommend you check that

1467
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:02,080
out yeah the whole trick is and I I

1468
01:07:06,380 --> 01:07:04,480
actually got out of okay so let me

1469
01:07:08,660 --> 01:07:06,390
explain something there's

1470
01:07:10,579 --> 01:07:08,670
there's a thing that goes on that we

1471
01:07:13,519 --> 01:07:10,589
mentioned earlier it's called delay and

1472
01:07:17,329 --> 01:07:13,529
the delay that Horan Jia and I are

1473
01:07:20,299 --> 01:07:17,339
talking about is the delay of a reaction

1474
01:07:23,689 --> 01:07:20,309
from when you hit a switch or turn

1475
01:07:26,059 --> 01:07:23,699
something on and off with musical gear

1476
01:07:29,539 --> 01:07:26,069
and then going back through a computer

1477
01:07:32,269 --> 01:07:29,549
it's not instantaneous right it's not

1478
01:07:37,130 --> 01:07:32,279
there's a delay that happens there and

1479
01:07:38,779 --> 01:07:37,140
we've been fighting that stupid delay no

1480
01:07:40,509 --> 01:07:38,789
matter what in the music industry for a

1481
01:07:43,759 --> 01:07:40,519
very long time trying to over grant I

1482
01:07:47,719 --> 01:07:43,769
had to I had that problem here I would

1483
01:07:50,269 --> 01:07:47,729
play our commercials through a program

1484
01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:50,279
with the computer and there was a delay

1485
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:52,799
by the time I clicked on the mouse and

1486
01:07:58,489 --> 01:07:55,650
everything happened and then boom and

1487
01:08:01,400 --> 01:07:58,499
then it decides to play sometimes it's a

1488
01:08:03,319 --> 01:08:01,410
few seconds and and plus it's a computer

1489
01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:03,329
sometimes it could take even longer or

1490
01:08:08,509 --> 01:08:05,910
not happen at all so yeah and I switch

1491
01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:08,519
to a hardware solution and I've got a

1492
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:15,209
task cam sampler now I've got a keyboard

1493
01:08:19,819 --> 01:08:16,980
I could almost hold it up to the camera

1494
01:08:24,799 --> 01:08:19,829
that's got soft buttons all over it and

1495
01:08:27,499 --> 01:08:24,809
instead of triggering samples sounds off

1496
01:08:31,459 --> 01:08:27,509
of a computer I'm going straight off of

1497
01:08:35,089 --> 01:08:31,469
a RAM chip and so it's just like that

1498
01:08:37,490 --> 01:08:35,099
you know it's cool man and and I have

1499
01:08:39,709 --> 01:08:37,500
that tactile feel too as well which is

1500
01:08:41,629 --> 01:08:39,719
important well that's the thing right so

1501
01:08:43,519 --> 01:08:41,639
that's that's kind of the issue too with

1502
01:08:45,499 --> 01:08:43,529
Ableton and for those listening you know

1503
01:08:48,049 --> 01:08:45,509
Ableton as a software kind of like a

1504
01:08:50,539 --> 01:08:48,059
digital audio workstation a DA kind of

1505
01:08:52,700 --> 01:08:50,549
like logic or proto-tool but it is

1506
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:52,710
designed for using for live performance

1507
01:08:56,780 --> 01:08:54,239
it's really robust it's kind of like

1508
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:56,790
GarageBand I would say Ableton Live is

1509
01:09:00,379 --> 01:08:59,040
kind of like garage man you know some

1510
01:09:01,939 --> 01:09:00,389
guys are gonna be really angry to you

1511
01:09:04,669 --> 01:09:01,949
for saying that but I you know I'll go

1512
01:09:07,729 --> 01:09:04,679
along with that yeah yeah or what was

1513
01:09:11,749 --> 01:09:07,739
the other one the one that was before

1514
01:09:14,209 --> 01:09:11,759
Ableton it was just like it Vegas man

1515
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:14,219
trying to think of the there was another

1516
01:09:17,660 --> 01:09:17,040
one that I used to use too as well back

1517
01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:17,670
in the day

1518
01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:21,150
but yeah Ableton Live is is an industry

1519
01:09:25,670 --> 01:09:23,190
standard now I didn't think it to where

1520
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:25,680
it is but it's oh man it's evolved you

1521
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:27,450
know and so now this is the thing is it

1522
01:09:30,650 --> 01:09:29,610
it's like leg think of Legos right

1523
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:30,660
everyone knows Legos

1524
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:33,690
so imagine Legos for for performing and

1525
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:35,850
sound engineering like it gives you all

1526
01:09:39,980 --> 01:09:38,010
the blocks now individual little like

1527
01:09:42,530 --> 01:09:39,990
blocks of devices and things that can

1528
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:42,540
control and do anything to sound and so

1529
01:09:45,470 --> 01:09:44,490
it's really up to the person using it

1530
01:09:47,300 --> 01:09:45,480
and how creative they are and how

1531
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:47,310
skilled they want to be or how long they

1532
01:09:51,470 --> 01:09:49,170
want to study YouTube versity to

1533
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:51,480
basically build a rig you know and

1534
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:53,730
mangle or create sounds that never been

1535
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:56,130
created or you know take live sounds or

1536
01:10:01,700 --> 01:09:59,520
DJ with sounds it's pretty robust and in

1537
01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:01,710
the latest version 10 is is like it's a

1538
01:10:04,970 --> 01:10:03,960
pretty phenomenal now the thing is is

1539
01:10:06,620 --> 01:10:04,980
what we were just going back to what

1540
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:06,630
we're saying is there's no tactile

1541
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:08,370
interface like I like to touch something

1542
01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:10,170
like you I'm you know I'm a very tactile

1543
01:10:14,420 --> 01:10:12,360
person and I don't I don't want to look

1544
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:14,430
at a laptop and look like I'm checking

1545
01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:17,130
email when I'm performing right and

1546
01:10:19,850 --> 01:10:18,450
that's what's kind of cool about this

1547
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:19,860
guy at this musician from San Luis

1548
01:10:24,590 --> 01:10:22,770
Obispo his name is Vince emo and man he

1549
01:10:27,710 --> 01:10:24,600
we got connected through another mutual

1550
01:10:28,940 --> 01:10:27,720
friend musician and he was like dude you

1551
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:28,950
guys need to meet he's got this

1552
01:10:32,450 --> 01:10:30,810
IndieGoGo thing and he's building this

1553
01:10:35,450 --> 01:10:32,460
prototype he's a musician he also knows

1554
01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:35,460
how to code and program he basically got

1555
01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:38,190
into the API the backend of Ableton and

1556
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:40,560
hacked it basically to where he got it a

1557
01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:42,570
MIDI controller that could work with the

1558
01:10:46,610 --> 01:10:44,310
little looper device that Ableton comes

1559
01:10:48,260 --> 01:10:46,620
with but it's unreliable I tried using

1560
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:48,270
it tried to map it to like MIDI

1561
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:50,730
controllers but it never was reliable to

1562
01:10:54,620 --> 01:10:53,280
take to the stage and so he hacked it

1563
01:10:57,290 --> 01:10:54,630
and got it to where it's actually the

1564
01:10:59,840 --> 01:10:57,300
latency is load the delay AKA latency is

1565
01:11:02,090 --> 01:10:59,850
down to where it's almost imperceptible

1566
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:02,100
and that it actually does what you think

1567
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:03,690
it's gonna do almost like hardware

1568
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:04,650
because that's what I like about the

1569
01:11:08,090 --> 01:11:06,810
hardware pedal right like the RC is you

1570
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:08,100
know it just does the one thing and it

1571
01:11:12,770 --> 01:11:10,530
does it well and Ableton is like a beast

1572
01:11:14,180 --> 01:11:12,780
it can do a million things and so if it

1573
01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:14,190
could easily crash or something to go

1574
01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:15,840
wrong you know so it doesn't eliminate

1575
01:11:19,850 --> 01:11:18,060
obviously the possibility of crashing so

1576
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:19,860
you need a second laptop as a backup if

1577
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,530
you need to or that RC 300 is still

1578
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:24,960
going to every gig exactly yeah you got

1579
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:26,400
something so that you can you know

1580
01:11:30,380 --> 01:11:28,080
worst-case scenario you can throw

1581
01:11:31,410 --> 01:11:30,390
something down and the show goes on but

1582
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:31,420
that's yes

1583
01:11:34,830 --> 01:11:32,650
that's what I'm basically working on

1584
01:11:37,260 --> 01:11:34,840
this new rig that will basically give me

1585
01:11:38,580 --> 01:11:37,270
the ability to go to do so much more

1586
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:38,590
than I've been able to do with just

1587
01:11:42,300 --> 01:11:41,290
hardware but but I'm with you I mean you

1588
01:11:44,130 --> 01:11:42,310
know there's definitely something to be

1589
01:11:47,340 --> 01:11:44,140
said about hardware the reliability of

1590
01:11:49,020 --> 01:11:47,350
it you know yeah that's that's huge now

1591
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:49,030
there's something else that I find

1592
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:51,850
interesting about your music and I'm

1593
01:11:59,160 --> 01:11:54,610
just wondering because improvisation is

1594
01:12:02,100 --> 01:11:59,170
is 99% of it so in that do you

1595
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:02,110
you're gonna layer these ideas and and

1596
01:12:05,010 --> 01:12:04,480
it's coming out from the soul at that

1597
01:12:07,950 --> 01:12:05,020
moment

1598
01:12:10,650 --> 01:12:07,960
do you ever I'm thinking of like a

1599
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:10,660
comedy show take this in the right way

1600
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:15,280
we're an improvisational comedy setting

1601
01:12:20,189 --> 01:12:18,370
people are yelling out things cantaloupe

1602
01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:20,199
right and now they've got to crack a

1603
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:23,140
joke about cantaloupes right does

1604
01:12:29,090 --> 01:12:26,050
anybody ever say anything to you or

1605
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:29,100
suggest from the audience

1606
01:12:39,470 --> 01:12:36,610
enlightenment Anunnaki right you know

1607
01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:39,480
and and and where you take the spirit of

1608
01:12:46,140 --> 01:12:42,790
an improv into a direction at that

1609
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:46,150
moment absolutely I mean I I love doing

1610
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:48,250
that so I so for instance you know I

1611
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:50,560
just did this this Runner shows again at

1612
01:12:54,030 --> 01:12:52,090
the Desert Botanical Garden actually

1613
01:12:55,530 --> 01:12:54,040
just had me back for another run it had

1614
01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:55,540
been five years since I did that when I

1615
01:12:58,290 --> 01:12:56,800
just told you about when I learned how

1616
01:13:00,270 --> 01:12:58,300
to loop so I've been doing in this book

1617
01:13:03,150 --> 01:13:00,280
as five six years looping specifically

1618
01:13:04,740 --> 01:13:03,160
and and and so I go back there in this

1619
01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:04,750
it's kind of an audience it's a thing

1620
01:13:07,290 --> 01:13:05,800
where people are constantly walking

1621
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:07,300
through the gardens and you know it's

1622
01:13:10,290 --> 01:13:09,010
all lit up with candles fifty thousand

1623
01:13:12,660 --> 01:13:10,300
candles at night it's called the lumen

1624
01:13:15,419 --> 01:13:12,670
ideas not to be confused with Illuminati

1625
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:15,429
right and so and so you're hanging out

1626
01:13:18,330 --> 01:13:16,810
there in the desert and people are

1627
01:13:20,490 --> 01:13:18,340
coming through different audiences kind

1628
01:13:22,110 --> 01:13:20,500
of cycling and and so it's more concerts

1629
01:13:23,550 --> 01:13:22,120
now kind of I talk I tell stories about

1630
01:13:25,260 --> 01:13:23,560
the instruments because a lot of

1631
01:13:27,540 --> 01:13:25,270
festival shows and other content you

1632
01:13:28,890 --> 01:13:27,550
know shows that I do I'm more like I'm

1633
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:28,900
just building music and I don't really

1634
01:13:32,939 --> 01:13:31,120
talk as much to the audience say you

1635
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:32,949
know I don't stop between songs as much

1636
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:35,199
and so it was cool so people I would

1637
01:13:37,919 --> 01:13:36,610
tell people I'd be like you know hey I

1638
01:13:40,020 --> 01:13:37,929
don't have a setlist

1639
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:40,030
so what do you all want to do we can go

1640
01:13:44,459 --> 01:13:42,400
up we can go down we can go outside or

1641
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:44,469
we can go inside or inside out what do

1642
01:13:48,340 --> 01:13:45,050
you like

1643
01:13:51,220 --> 01:13:48,350
and often someone goes inside out I love

1644
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:51,230
that I love that I love that I be in the

1645
01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:57,410
back road EMT and now and so let's let's

1646
01:14:05,610 --> 01:13:59,120
actually let's take a right-hand turn

1647
01:14:09,730 --> 01:14:05,620
here and and you have had a lot of

1648
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:09,740
spiritual journeys wink wink okay now

1649
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:16,010
with those journeys there is you before

1650
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:20,330
them and you after as a musician how has

1651
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:24,290
it changed you hmm well that's a really

1652
01:14:30,130 --> 01:14:26,330
interesting question so how has it

1653
01:14:32,650 --> 01:14:30,140
changed me I mean gosh in so many ways I

1654
01:14:35,260 --> 01:14:32,660
guess there's you know from the time I

1655
01:14:37,660 --> 01:14:35,270
was very little I was already around

1656
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:37,670
ceremony from really early early on gosh

1657
01:14:41,770 --> 01:14:39,770
I mean I I sat up in my first day

1658
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:41,780
muscala which is a purification ceremony

1659
01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:45,410
when I was about 7 years old and you

1660
01:14:49,810 --> 01:14:47,510
know yeah just kind of being in that

1661
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:49,820
kind of closed dark environment and

1662
01:14:53,980 --> 01:14:51,890
exposed to you know the elements in a

1663
01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:53,990
very extreme way and just not being

1664
01:14:56,890 --> 01:14:55,280
claustrophobic and you know not being

1665
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:56,900
able to be classroom you could be

1666
01:15:00,820 --> 01:14:58,370
claustrophobic but no one's really

1667
01:15:03,070 --> 01:15:00,830
paying attention to you in that way and

1668
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:03,080
you know but taking myself into those

1669
01:15:08,020 --> 01:15:05,210
really deep places and I would say

1670
01:15:11,530 --> 01:15:08,030
they've always shown me and when I say

1671
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:11,540
they I'm referring to to the spirit

1672
01:15:15,670 --> 01:15:13,760
realm you know to the guides you if you

1673
01:15:17,140 --> 01:15:15,680
will maybe some people call them angels

1674
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:17,150
maybe some people call them you know

1675
01:15:21,460 --> 01:15:19,730
helper spirits or you know ascended

1676
01:15:22,570 --> 01:15:21,470
masters I whoever you want to talk to I

1677
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:22,580
think there's a lot of ways to talk

1678
01:15:26,230 --> 01:15:24,410
about these things but for me you know

1679
01:15:28,570 --> 01:15:26,240
they've they've been ancestors and

1680
01:15:30,460 --> 01:15:28,580
guides who come to me and they've shown

1681
01:15:31,690 --> 01:15:30,470
themselves and a lot of them you know

1682
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:31,700
there's different there's different ones

1683
01:15:35,050 --> 01:15:33,110
and different ones that have had

1684
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:35,060
different several of them are musicians

1685
01:15:38,260 --> 01:15:37,850
in fact and some of them come from

1686
01:15:40,060 --> 01:15:38,270
Africa

1687
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:40,070
some of them come from South America and

1688
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:43,010
they play through me there's a level of

1689
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:45,410
that that I witnessed and I started to

1690
01:15:49,540 --> 01:15:47,330
tap into early on when I was learning

1691
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:49,550
how to play ceremonial drumming for for

1692
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:52,490
ceremony and so the thing I was learned

1693
01:15:57,220 --> 01:15:54,110
especially in those contexts when we

1694
01:15:58,660 --> 01:15:57,230
drum for ceremony I wanted one of those

1695
01:16:01,900 --> 01:15:58,670
contexts it was in the

1696
01:16:04,150 --> 01:16:01,910
benignly Church in Brazil and in that

1697
01:16:06,220 --> 01:16:04,160
tradition which originated it kind of

1698
01:16:08,380 --> 01:16:06,230
has its roots all the way back to condom

1699
01:16:10,690 --> 01:16:08,390
bleh all the way back to Aoife but now

1700
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:10,700
we're talking West Africa right where a

1701
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:12,530
lot of the slaves came from and it's

1702
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:13,730
been mapped into Christianity

1703
01:16:17,470 --> 01:16:15,410
Catholicism so you have this really

1704
01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:17,480
interesting syncretic like meshing

1705
01:16:21,340 --> 01:16:19,490
happening there so Saints are mapped to

1706
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:21,350
it kind of like you know so certain

1707
01:16:24,580 --> 01:16:22,970
Saints will represent certain odisha Oz

1708
01:16:25,870 --> 01:16:24,590
which is like their gods and goddesses

1709
01:16:29,010 --> 01:16:25,880
you know that represent different

1710
01:16:32,260 --> 01:16:29,020
elements and and so it's a trance

1711
01:16:34,540 --> 01:16:32,270
spiritual tradition so it's very much

1712
01:16:36,220 --> 01:16:34,550
about divination about being able to see

1713
01:16:38,170 --> 01:16:36,230
into the future and be able to

1714
01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:38,180
communicate with spirits being able to

1715
01:16:42,340 --> 01:16:40,400
predict what's going to come being able

1716
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:42,350
to enter into a trance state in even

1717
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:45,050
possession which that kind of can scare

1718
01:16:48,850 --> 01:16:47,600
people here up in the north you know but

1719
01:16:51,340 --> 01:16:48,860
it's something that's been around in

1720
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:51,350
various traditions since recorded

1721
01:16:58,530 --> 01:16:55,130
history right well let me let me ask you

1722
01:17:01,000 --> 01:16:58,540
this you just said from a very young age

1723
01:17:03,070 --> 01:17:01,010
take me back to that point

1724
01:17:05,230 --> 01:17:03,080
you weren't participating in the

1725
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:05,240
ceremony you worthy

1726
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:08,930
you were the drumming guy right how old

1727
01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:12,410
were you it yeah it depends I just kind

1728
01:17:16,420 --> 01:17:14,030
of there's there's a lot of stories here

1729
01:17:19,090 --> 01:17:16,430
there's a lot of levels with so when

1730
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:19,100
when I was my first like kind of

1731
01:17:23,950 --> 01:17:21,050
drumming and ceremony happened in my

1732
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:23,960
like during my teens okay where I was

1733
01:17:28,290 --> 01:17:26,570
allowed to then actually play officially

1734
01:17:30,670 --> 01:17:28,300
if you will but I was already

1735
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:30,680
participating and you know being in the

1736
01:17:33,550 --> 01:17:32,090
ceremonies when I was even younger than

1737
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:33,560
that as I was talking about you know

1738
01:17:37,030 --> 01:17:36,050
with like the mascot the mascot is for

1739
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:37,040
those who don't know it's it's similar

1740
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:39,290
to the Inipi ceremony that the Lakota

1741
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:41,090
have up here in the north or the Sioux

1742
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:44,450
tribes which was like a sweat lodge and

1743
01:17:48,730 --> 01:17:46,640
so in that ceremony for those who are

1744
01:17:51,130 --> 01:17:48,740
listening you know it's it's very simple

1745
01:17:52,660 --> 01:17:51,140
ceremony in that it's about using just

1746
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:52,670
the elements you're not working with any

1747
01:17:57,580 --> 01:17:55,520
type of psychotropic you know plants or

1748
01:18:00,310 --> 01:17:57,590
and eugenic plants like that you're

1749
01:18:02,290 --> 01:18:00,320
actually activating those molecules

1750
01:18:05,140 --> 01:18:02,300
within yourself so you're releasing DMT

1751
01:18:06,970 --> 01:18:05,150
within yourself by going into a state

1752
01:18:09,730 --> 01:18:06,980
where you're you know you're sweating

1753
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:09,740
kinda like you would in a sauna but very

1754
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:10,730
different and that you're working

1755
01:18:13,839 --> 01:18:12,050
directly with the elements you

1756
01:18:16,089 --> 01:18:13,849
already probably fast your body's

1757
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:16,099
already in a water fast you're already

1758
01:18:20,459 --> 01:18:18,320
kind of like under stress and so as a

1759
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:20,469
result when you go into those rounds

1760
01:18:26,260 --> 01:18:24,650
with the song and the drum you're trying

1761
01:18:28,209 --> 01:18:26,270
to take it into this visionary space and

1762
01:18:30,370 --> 01:18:28,219
you're in total darkness and all you see

1763
01:18:31,569 --> 01:18:30,380
is like the glowing of the rocks and

1764
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:31,579
stones right that are brought in from

1765
01:18:36,939 --> 01:18:33,650
the fire yeah I see I don't want anybody

1766
01:18:40,629 --> 01:18:36,949
to imagine you at the age of 13 with

1767
01:18:42,729 --> 01:18:40,639
psychedelic drugs and a drum that's not

1768
01:18:47,470 --> 01:18:42,739
right that's not what we're talking

1769
01:18:50,109 --> 01:18:47,480
about here yeah just to be clear just to

1770
01:18:52,270 --> 01:18:50,119
be clear so you know but but then later

1771
01:18:54,459 --> 01:18:52,280
on with with the drumming you know like

1772
01:18:56,379 --> 01:18:54,469
I was saying in the medina church for

1773
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:56,389
instance they work with diamond and so

1774
01:19:00,640 --> 01:18:58,250
in that context they they will also

1775
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:00,650
layer in a dime a dime a for those who

1776
01:19:05,859 --> 01:19:03,650
don't know is in Brazil is fully you

1777
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:05,869
know recognized and respected by by the

1778
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:07,610
government it's not an illegal substance

1779
01:19:14,770 --> 01:19:12,170
but it is a plant that it's it's similar

1780
01:19:16,569 --> 01:19:14,780
to what people know in Peru and in kind

1781
01:19:18,669 --> 01:19:16,579
of that part of South America as

1782
01:19:20,049 --> 01:19:18,679
ayahuasca which is actually two

1783
01:19:22,330 --> 01:19:20,059
different plants you know that are the

1784
01:19:25,149 --> 01:19:22,340
two main plant constituents that make up

1785
01:19:27,069 --> 01:19:25,159
this brew an MAO inhibitor combined with

1786
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:27,079
another plant that also has high levels

1787
01:19:32,589 --> 01:19:30,320
of DMT with another plant that works

1788
01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:32,599
with that together basically to take you

1789
01:19:36,700 --> 01:19:34,400
you know activate you into a visionary

1790
01:19:38,589 --> 01:19:36,710
state also to heal the body to heal you

1791
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:38,599
from cancer from numerous things I mean

1792
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:40,250
it's it's pretty amazing can heal

1793
01:19:44,799 --> 01:19:42,170
depression PTSD there's all these new

1794
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:44,809
studies coming out so that's kind of

1795
01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:46,250
like just to kind of draw the parallel

1796
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:48,710
so in for instance in that context they

1797
01:19:52,810 --> 01:19:50,570
might work with that medicine in

1798
01:19:54,850 --> 01:19:52,820
addition to just the music and the dance

1799
01:19:57,250 --> 01:19:54,860
which already is the medicine if you get

1800
01:19:58,810 --> 01:19:57,260
what I'm saying so that's the main thing

1801
01:20:00,280 --> 01:19:58,820
though in these trans traditions they

1802
01:20:02,470 --> 01:20:00,290
don't historically always work with

1803
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:02,480
necessarily antigenic you know substance

1804
01:20:08,830 --> 01:20:06,050
plant or plants or other other helpers

1805
01:20:10,089 --> 01:20:08,840
but just working with just the rhythms

1806
01:20:12,129 --> 01:20:10,099
and this is kind of what I wanted to

1807
01:20:15,790 --> 01:20:12,139
point out is you know for me learning

1808
01:20:17,649 --> 01:20:15,800
early on is as a drummer the drummers

1809
01:20:19,839 --> 01:20:17,659
we're you know we're we're kind of we're

1810
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:19,849
given a very special blessing and and

1811
01:20:22,899 --> 01:20:21,679
they they do with some kind of a ritual

1812
01:20:24,669 --> 01:20:22,909
where they close our head which

1813
01:20:25,810 --> 01:20:24,679
basically means we can't receive a

1814
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:25,820
spirit so we

1815
01:20:29,890 --> 01:20:27,890
get possessed we're kind of where our

1816
01:20:31,450 --> 01:20:29,900
job there is to hold it down you know

1817
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:31,460
we're kind of the foundation of the

1818
01:20:36,070 --> 01:20:33,770
ceremony to to drum for the ceremony so

1819
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:36,080
that others can receive spirits if that

1820
01:20:39,940 --> 01:20:38,570
is to happen or not happen and so that

1821
01:20:42,340 --> 01:20:39,950
the whole ceremony kind of the container

1822
01:20:44,710 --> 01:20:42,350
of the ceremony can happen and so the

1823
01:20:46,900 --> 01:20:44,720
rhythms that we play and this gets into

1824
01:20:49,090 --> 01:20:46,910
a very ancient technology are

1825
01:20:52,030 --> 01:20:49,100
specifically designed to get us out of

1826
01:20:53,950 --> 01:20:52,040
our mind and get us into our body and to

1827
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:53,960
connect us to spirit to source and

1828
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:55,970
that's very intentional and it's a very

1829
01:20:59,890 --> 01:20:57,920
important thing because it's it's a way

1830
01:21:02,530 --> 01:20:59,900
to pray you know it's a way to open this

1831
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:02,540
portal and in and when that's done right

1832
01:21:06,940 --> 01:21:04,490
and the right people are holding that

1833
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:06,950
space you don't open a portal and let

1834
01:21:10,540 --> 01:21:09,050
beings that we don't want to let in you

1835
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:10,550
you're bringing in good beings if you

1836
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:12,890
will you know so that so that good

1837
01:21:16,300 --> 01:21:14,450
healing can happen and there's usually a

1838
01:21:18,220 --> 01:21:16,310
focus of this it's not like we just want

1839
01:21:20,110 --> 01:21:18,230
to you know pop this you know this

1840
01:21:22,540 --> 01:21:20,120
dimensional portal open and bring in all

1841
01:21:24,340 --> 01:21:22,550
kinds of really um not you know kind of

1842
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:24,350
a dangerous thing if you will it's done

1843
01:21:28,420 --> 01:21:25,760
really intentionally usually for a

1844
01:21:30,610 --> 01:21:28,430
healing usually for some specific rights

1845
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:30,620
maybe it rights a passage maybe it's

1846
01:21:34,180 --> 01:21:32,330
being done because of you know people

1847
01:21:35,710 --> 01:21:34,190
are being joined or there's various

1848
01:21:37,930 --> 01:21:35,720
things you know maybe we're we're

1849
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:37,940
focusing on some kind of specific thing

1850
01:21:43,390 --> 01:21:40,730
that wants to be done if you will for

1851
01:21:45,820 --> 01:21:43,400
the ceremony and so yeah just to kind of

1852
01:21:48,130 --> 01:21:45,830
give that that perspective and so the

1853
01:21:49,930 --> 01:21:48,140
drumming and the drummers are kind of

1854
01:21:52,990 --> 01:21:49,940
essential we're like the motor of this

1855
01:21:54,730 --> 01:21:53,000
thing and of course the singers which

1856
01:21:57,190 --> 01:21:54,740
could also be the drummer's or could be

1857
01:21:58,810 --> 01:21:57,200
other people so that's kind of like just

1858
01:22:01,090 --> 01:21:58,820
to give you like a orientation of that

1859
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:01,100
but yeah from early on you know that

1860
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:03,770
that's been part of of the tradition you

1861
01:22:07,390 --> 01:22:05,600
know that I that I come out of and is

1862
01:22:09,700 --> 01:22:07,400
informed me so going back to your first

1863
01:22:13,530 --> 01:22:09,710
question of you know did this change

1864
01:22:17,170 --> 01:22:13,540
musically absolutely you know I think

1865
01:22:19,540 --> 01:22:17,180
whenever I perform and whether that is

1866
01:22:22,330 --> 01:22:19,550
in you know a concert hall or Performing

1867
01:22:25,540 --> 01:22:22,340
Arts Center or if it's at a festival or

1868
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:25,550
if it's just you know at a ceremony it's

1869
01:22:31,150 --> 01:22:28,370
it's done I do so without most respect

1870
01:22:33,970 --> 01:22:31,160
and reverence for all beings both seen

1871
01:22:36,250 --> 01:22:33,980
and unseen and I do so always trying to

1872
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:36,260
you're not trying but really tuning in

1873
01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:38,210
to what is happening what's the energy

1874
01:22:42,130 --> 01:22:39,710
here you know like if

1875
01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:42,140
where everyone's really wasted you know

1876
01:22:45,130 --> 01:22:43,280
what I mean are really high or

1877
01:22:46,330 --> 01:22:45,140
everyone's you know whatever it is you

1878
01:22:49,420 --> 01:22:46,340
know my job

1879
01:22:51,670 --> 01:22:49,430
I always feel is I'm conducting the

1880
01:22:53,170 --> 01:22:51,680
master of ceremonies here my job is to

1881
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:53,180
tune into what needs to happen right

1882
01:22:56,620 --> 01:22:54,650
here like you know is there kind of a

1883
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:56,630
vampiric energy going on here right you

1884
01:22:59,410 --> 01:22:57,920
know is this is this like you know Bud

1885
01:23:01,570 --> 01:22:59,420
Light is sponsoring this and it's just

1886
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:01,580
like another way like suck energy out of

1887
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:04,010
people yeah or is this about really like

1888
01:23:08,740 --> 01:23:05,600
you know what needs to happen here so

1889
01:23:11,830 --> 01:23:08,750
I'll shift my set my music my sound to

1890
01:23:13,540 --> 01:23:11,840
really shape shift and meet people so

1891
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:13,550
that I can try to create a cohesive

1892
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:16,130
field and and really try to support like

1893
01:23:19,450 --> 01:23:17,570
I you know like you read about my bio

1894
01:23:20,979 --> 01:23:19,460
it's about supporting the well-being of

1895
01:23:22,959 --> 01:23:20,989
all all beings you know for the greatest

1896
01:23:24,820 --> 01:23:22,969
good of all humans and all beings not

1897
01:23:26,590 --> 01:23:24,830
just humans to leggins but all creatures

1898
01:23:28,270 --> 01:23:26,600
because you know man that's I feel like

1899
01:23:30,220 --> 01:23:28,280
that's so important so much music has

1900
01:23:31,810 --> 01:23:30,230
really turned into the kind of a hate to

1901
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:31,820
say the word but kind of a prostitution

1902
01:23:35,530 --> 01:23:33,770
you know it's it's it's a it's kind of

1903
01:23:37,090 --> 01:23:35,540
like you know it's entertainment to kind

1904
01:23:39,190 --> 01:23:37,100
of distract you while this other thing

1905
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:39,200
is going on behind the scenes which you

1906
01:23:41,860 --> 01:23:40,489
know you've been an entertainment

1907
01:23:43,870 --> 01:23:41,870
business you know it's about selling

1908
01:23:47,050 --> 01:23:43,880
alcohol or it's about you know other

1909
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:47,060
things people go there to entertain

1910
01:23:51,580 --> 01:23:49,130
themselves to with different illicit

1911
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:51,590
materials and we're absolutely right

1912
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:55,600
where there is a lot of open minds and

1913
01:24:01,120 --> 01:23:57,440
consciousnesses that are running around

1914
01:24:04,540 --> 01:24:01,130
that are also vulnerable and and when

1915
01:24:07,450 --> 01:24:04,550
that door is open it could the the

1916
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:07,460
energy could be focused in a very bad

1917
01:24:14,530 --> 01:24:11,810
unpause ative way till you are able to

1918
01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:14,540
lasso it and rope it and bring it back

1919
01:24:19,870 --> 01:24:17,450
in and get it back into you know the

1920
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:19,880
masses that are there focusing into

1921
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:20,810
another direction

1922
01:24:25,870 --> 01:24:24,050
one of enlightenment that's that's

1923
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:25,880
really the intention always it's like

1924
01:24:29,020 --> 01:24:27,530
that's kind of my guiding light if you

1925
01:24:30,850 --> 01:24:29,030
will you know like where we need to go

1926
01:24:32,410 --> 01:24:30,860
right now do I need to make this like oh

1927
01:24:34,660 --> 01:24:32,420
I need to lighten the energy do I need

1928
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:34,670
to take us a little layer deeper or is

1929
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:36,080
you know and just kind of really reading

1930
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:38,210
God and so it's it's really about that

1931
01:24:42,010 --> 01:24:39,530
connection that's why I was saying like

1932
01:24:43,660 --> 01:24:42,020
it's you know the technologies I want

1933
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:43,670
that to be invisible it's just enabling

1934
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:45,890
me basically empowering me to be able to

1935
01:24:50,170 --> 01:24:48,890
use these tools to move that energy in a

1936
01:24:52,060 --> 01:24:50,180
massive way you know are you ever

1937
01:24:53,379 --> 01:24:52,070
tempted to take everybody into a

1938
01:25:00,359 --> 01:24:53,389
three-day nightmare

1939
01:25:02,649 --> 01:25:00,369
with lightning bolts because you could

1940
01:25:04,689 --> 01:25:02,659
yeah you know there's a lot of power

1941
01:25:06,459 --> 01:25:04,699
that can be welded a lot of power you

1942
01:25:08,139 --> 01:25:06,469
but you gotta be there's a lot of

1943
01:25:10,509 --> 01:25:08,149
responsibility you know I feel I feel a

1944
01:25:13,209 --> 01:25:10,519
lot of responsibility with it so so no I

1945
01:25:15,219 --> 01:25:13,219
don't I don't I don't I don't go there

1946
01:25:16,839 --> 01:25:15,229
unless you know every once in a while

1947
01:25:19,089 --> 01:25:16,849
when you're like you know the one times

1948
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:19,099
when I'm like all right I need to do

1949
01:25:22,929 --> 01:25:21,050
something radical here is when people

1950
01:25:24,699 --> 01:25:22,939
are like really like treating like

1951
01:25:27,279 --> 01:25:24,709
background music if you know what I mean

1952
01:25:28,659 --> 01:25:27,289
sure when people are just like ignoring

1953
01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:28,669
what's going on here and they're just

1954
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:30,800
totally oblivious like I've played I've

1955
01:25:34,839 --> 01:25:32,570
had unfortunately I've had to stoop down

1956
01:25:37,870 --> 01:25:34,849
and play play my fair share of corporate

1957
01:25:39,879 --> 01:25:37,880
shows right yep and that's now that the

1958
01:25:43,330 --> 01:25:39,889
target audience men where it's like okay

1959
01:25:45,429 --> 01:25:43,340
these guys are so dense and just so not

1960
01:25:47,469 --> 01:25:45,439
not tuned in they're just worried about

1961
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:47,479
you know how to impress the person

1962
01:25:51,310 --> 01:25:49,489
sitting next em or whatever and that's

1963
01:25:52,750 --> 01:25:51,320
you know I kind of love that kind of

1964
01:25:58,569 --> 01:25:52,760
challenge you know it's like alright

1965
01:26:01,449 --> 01:25:58,579
I'll show them it's like how can I get

1966
01:26:03,549 --> 01:26:01,459
these guys to like actually you know

1967
01:26:04,899 --> 01:26:03,559
tune in a little notch deeper because I

1968
01:26:06,909 --> 01:26:04,909
get something you know I really I

1969
01:26:08,709 --> 01:26:06,919
learned this early on I I went to school

1970
01:26:11,020 --> 01:26:08,719
with the Jesuits I had I went to a

1971
01:26:12,069 --> 01:26:11,030
Jesuit High School when I first came you

1972
01:26:13,689 --> 01:26:12,079
know when I was when I was here in the

1973
01:26:15,370 --> 01:26:13,699
United States first came here in Arizona

1974
01:26:17,020 --> 01:26:15,380
and I learned something for the Jesuits

1975
01:26:18,279 --> 01:26:17,030
the Jesuits knew and this is something

1976
01:26:20,139 --> 01:26:18,289
that it's really curious about them

1977
01:26:21,969 --> 01:26:20,149
whether you're Catholic Christian or not

1978
01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:21,979
is that the Jesuits if you look

1979
01:26:26,589 --> 01:26:23,840
historically where they were around the

1980
01:26:28,419 --> 01:26:26,599
planet they're very strategic man they

1981
01:26:30,069 --> 01:26:28,429
knew that if they could influence the

1982
01:26:31,899 --> 01:26:30,079
influencers if they could be close to

1983
01:26:34,330 --> 01:26:31,909
the wealthiest and most powerful people

1984
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:34,340
on the planet that they could actually

1985
01:26:38,350 --> 01:26:36,530
wield change things they could affect

1986
01:26:39,879 --> 01:26:38,360
and impact things and so they would do

1987
01:26:41,889 --> 01:26:39,889
that they were always the advisors to

1988
01:26:43,330 --> 01:26:41,899
like whoever was in power right and they

1989
01:26:45,159 --> 01:26:43,340
were also the first ones on the scene

1990
01:26:46,449 --> 01:26:45,169
the first ones to come over and to start

1991
01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:46,459
to translate the languages the

1992
01:26:49,899 --> 01:26:47,840
indigenous people you know in South

1993
01:26:51,609 --> 01:26:49,909
America and the first colonies they were

1994
01:26:54,189 --> 01:26:51,619
the first ones in China the first ones

1995
01:26:55,629 --> 01:26:54,199
to write to do this so really strategic

1996
01:26:58,330 --> 01:26:55,639
and so I learned from the Jesuits that

1997
01:26:59,799 --> 01:26:58,340
if I want to be able to impact the world

1998
01:27:01,540 --> 01:26:59,809
on all levels

1999
01:27:04,299 --> 01:27:01,550
I've got also be able to reach these

2000
01:27:06,580 --> 01:27:04,309
people and so for me when I'm playing in

2001
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:06,590
those kind of settings it's like okay

2002
01:27:10,420 --> 01:27:08,030
I activate them so then what do I do I

2003
01:27:12,370 --> 01:27:10,430
bust out a didgeridoo and then I don't

2004
01:27:13,210 --> 01:27:12,380
just bust out a didgeridoo but I get off

2005
01:27:17,860 --> 01:27:13,220
the stage

2006
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:17,870
the audience with my wireless on there

2007
01:27:21,370 --> 01:27:19,970
and just blast them open man and people

2008
01:27:23,620 --> 01:27:21,380
they don't know what to do they kind of

2009
01:27:25,480 --> 01:27:23,630
like some people freak out like wait

2010
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:25,490
he's not staying in the little box that

2011
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:28,250
we live in and that you know so for me I

2012
01:27:32,380 --> 01:27:30,170
love breaking the barrier of that

2013
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:32,390
audience you know perspective you know a

2014
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:35,210
stage invisible kind of like lying that

2015
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:36,890
you're not supposed to cross that's my

2016
01:27:41,470 --> 01:27:38,810
favorite line to break and make people

2017
01:27:42,940 --> 01:27:41,480
really freak out well you know there's

2018
01:27:46,030 --> 01:27:42,950
there's something else here - oh

2019
01:27:49,900 --> 01:27:46,040
somebody just I remembered now the

2020
01:27:52,870 --> 01:27:49,910
original looping software was acid all

2021
01:27:54,970 --> 01:27:52,880
right you remember acid do you on the PC

2022
01:27:57,100 --> 01:27:54,980
yeah yeah yeah yeah acid which was

2023
01:28:00,070 --> 01:27:57,110
bought by Sony and then Ableton was

2024
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:00,080
running at the same time and competitive

2025
01:28:07,390 --> 01:28:03,730
but it was acid that got me into looping

2026
01:28:12,940 --> 01:28:07,400
acid everybody is the name of the

2027
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:12,950
program the name of the software there's

2028
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:14,570
this is the other thing that I've

2029
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:18,770
respected not only about you but those

2030
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:21,290
that are able to play the

2031
01:28:25,690 --> 01:28:22,970
non-traditional instruments and the

2032
01:28:28,420 --> 01:28:25,700
tribal instruments and percussive and

2033
01:28:33,250 --> 01:28:28,430
whatever it may be it's it's some of the

2034
01:28:35,380 --> 01:28:33,260
most difficult but difficult to learn

2035
01:28:37,900 --> 01:28:35,390
and to master and plus you got to find

2036
01:28:40,630 --> 01:28:37,910
them you know it that's that there's

2037
01:28:42,490 --> 01:28:40,640
that part but it's the most difficult to

2038
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:42,500
play and you've always got some doofus

2039
01:28:49,330 --> 01:28:46,010
in the audience that is like how man you

2040
01:28:53,710 --> 01:28:49,340
know I I can do that well you know what

2041
01:28:55,780 --> 01:28:53,720
you can't it's it is the the poly

2042
01:28:59,260 --> 01:28:55,790
rhythms that are going on the technique

2043
01:29:01,630 --> 01:28:59,270
the years of practice and and to to

2044
01:29:05,050 --> 01:29:01,640
attempt to master these instruments is

2045
01:29:07,900 --> 01:29:05,060
very very difficult and it's not easy to

2046
01:29:11,050 --> 01:29:07,910
do it's one of the do you have to go out

2047
01:29:14,190 --> 01:29:11,060
and and visit different countries and

2048
01:29:16,690 --> 01:29:14,200
and get to the original players of these

2049
01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:16,700
indigenous instruments to learn the

2050
01:29:20,260 --> 01:29:19,760
craft absolutely I mean that's kind of

2051
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:20,270
part

2052
01:29:26,590 --> 01:29:24,290
is an important pieces is connecting to

2053
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:26,600
where the instruments come from and the

2054
01:29:31,300 --> 01:29:29,690
people and the stories right they're

2055
01:29:33,010 --> 01:29:31,310
kind of like where like knowing the

2056
01:29:35,050 --> 01:29:33,020
creation myth of the of the dudes you

2057
01:29:36,850 --> 01:29:35,060
know knowing like these nuances about

2058
01:29:38,410 --> 01:29:36,860
these instruments it really informs the

2059
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:38,420
music because I feel like part of what

2060
01:29:41,979 --> 01:29:40,130
happens a lot of times in and it's kind

2061
01:29:43,930 --> 01:29:41,989
of an interesting thing music you know a

2062
01:29:45,310 --> 01:29:43,940
cultural appropriation it's kind of a

2063
01:29:47,380 --> 01:29:45,320
buzzword right it's a but it's a big

2064
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:47,390
deal right now and you see it happen all

2065
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:49,730
the time and in music it happens the

2066
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:51,170
most probably and it's probably the most

2067
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:53,690
accepted because music by its nature is

2068
01:29:57,459 --> 01:29:56,090
as a conversation right people have been

2069
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:57,469
influencing each other and trading

2070
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:00,320
sounds and ideas musical ideas since

2071
01:30:04,570 --> 01:30:03,110
before recorded history so right I feel

2072
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:04,580
like it's it's kind of the most

2073
01:30:09,670 --> 01:30:07,370
accepting and saying that it's very

2074
01:30:11,530 --> 01:30:09,680
important to not just like okey dokey

2075
01:30:15,010 --> 01:30:11,540
because look at like a great example

2076
01:30:16,959 --> 01:30:15,020
right you know deep forest right nobody

2077
01:30:19,630 --> 01:30:16,969
knew those guys they took samples of the

2078
01:30:21,850 --> 01:30:19,640
pygmies and made millions of dollars on

2079
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:21,860
those records and the pygmies never saw

2080
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:23,810
any of that money right but now there

2081
01:30:27,490 --> 01:30:25,130
you have an example with a sample they

2082
01:30:29,260 --> 01:30:27,500
recorded their actual voices now you

2083
01:30:30,550 --> 01:30:29,270
have examples of course if they played

2084
01:30:31,900 --> 01:30:30,560
an instrument that the pigs we played

2085
01:30:33,580 --> 01:30:31,910
and but they were playing and they

2086
01:30:34,780 --> 01:30:33,590
recorded then it's not as big a deal but

2087
01:30:36,850 --> 01:30:34,790
do you know I'm saying there's kind of a

2088
01:30:39,130 --> 01:30:36,860
political piece there that's really

2089
01:30:41,650 --> 01:30:39,140
important to note and so for me I really

2090
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:41,660
find a key and whenever I can engage my

2091
01:30:45,550 --> 01:30:43,370
audience with and kind of talk about the

2092
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:45,560
history and the story behind it or if I

2093
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:47,930
do that you know off of stage I really

2094
01:30:51,610 --> 01:30:49,370
love doing that because I feel it's

2095
01:30:53,470 --> 01:30:51,620
really important to share where these

2096
01:30:55,959 --> 01:30:53,480
why this instrument exists why this

2097
01:30:58,090 --> 01:30:55,969
tradition exists why is it that it makes

2098
01:30:59,709 --> 01:30:58,100
you feel this way like why is it when

2099
01:31:01,479 --> 01:30:59,719
you play a didge just to use that

2100
01:31:03,850 --> 01:31:01,489
example again you know you feel

2101
01:31:05,709 --> 01:31:03,860
something energetically shift and I

2102
01:31:07,450 --> 01:31:05,719
don't care who you are I mean you see it

2103
01:31:09,670 --> 01:31:07,460
even in animals can detect it you know

2104
01:31:11,530 --> 01:31:09,680
dogs and cat like they feel it there's

2105
01:31:15,940 --> 01:31:11,540
an energetic shift in that vibration

2106
01:31:17,170 --> 01:31:15,950
that's moving something let me jump in

2107
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:17,180
right there we got to take a break all

2108
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:19,010
right there we'll pick up right where we

2109
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:22,250
are Lewis I promise we'll go right back

2110
01:31:26,110 --> 01:31:24,080
to didgeridoo after this short break I

2111
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:26,120
guess and I pour on ghee I am your host

2112
01:31:29,710 --> 01:31:28,130
Jimmy church this is fade to black stay

2113
01:31:35,660 --> 01:31:29,720
with us

2114
01:31:35,670 --> 01:31:45,510
[Music]

2115
01:31:52,990 --> 01:31:48,689
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

2116
01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:53,000
you're listening to fade to black always

2117
01:31:57,850 --> 01:31:55,040
on the edge of the hottest alternative

2118
01:32:17,110 --> 01:31:57,860
talk jimmy church with fade to black

2119
01:32:20,830 --> 01:32:17,120
stay GRA radio.com hurricanes

2120
01:32:22,570 --> 01:32:20,840
earthquakes wildfires this year we've

2121
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:22,580
experienced more than our fair share

2122
01:32:27,850 --> 01:32:25,130
this is Jimmy Church of fade to black

2123
01:32:30,070 --> 01:32:27,860
and last month I decided to make sure my

2124
01:32:31,930 --> 01:32:30,080
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2125
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01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:09,610
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2192
01:36:15,010 --> 01:36:12,050
all right welcome back fade to black I

2193
01:36:19,330 --> 01:36:15,020
am your host Jimmy Church I guess

2194
01:36:22,230 --> 01:36:19,340
tonight poor on D world musician fully

2195
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:22,240
awoke we're gonna talk a little et now

2196
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we've got to go into that direction but

2197
01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:27,020
before we do check this out

2198
01:36:35,890 --> 01:36:30,400
do you like the music right there oh

2199
01:36:37,900 --> 01:36:35,900
yeah that's live that's a real musicians

2200
01:36:41,710 --> 01:36:37,910
right if you know what I mean there's

2201
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:41,720
something about that that stirs the soul

2202
01:36:47,530 --> 01:36:46,610
and it's looping I don't want anybody to

2203
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:47,540
get confused here

2204
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:53,450
looping is not playing samples it's a

2205
01:36:57,850 --> 01:36:55,610
real performance that is being captured

2206
01:37:02,200 --> 01:36:57,860
in real time it's it's it's it's live

2207
01:37:04,630 --> 01:37:02,210
artistic things that are happening live

2208
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:04,640
right in front of you and there's a big

2209
01:37:07,930 --> 01:37:06,650
difference there and there's something

2210
01:37:09,820 --> 01:37:07,940
you know and I think we've gotten away

2211
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:09,830
from that somewhat you know the live

2212
01:37:16,540 --> 01:37:14,210
aspect of music the performance because

2213
01:37:20,380 --> 01:37:16,550
it's so easy for and I'm not saying it's

2214
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:20,390
not creative you can go in with with

2215
01:37:25,540 --> 01:37:23,090
samples and create some pretty amazing

2216
01:37:26,890 --> 01:37:25,550
stuff you know some Beastie Boys albums

2217
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:26,900
out there I think are some of the best

2218
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:29,090
things that have were ever done but

2219
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:31,850
there's something about that you need

2220
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:35,170
you need to have you know the live

2221
01:37:39,460 --> 01:37:37,760
performance captured that is a

2222
01:37:41,310 --> 01:37:39,470
completely different thing than firing

2223
01:37:44,170 --> 01:37:41,320
off a sample with a keyboard

2224
01:37:46,780 --> 01:37:44,180
totally no I agree with that a lot I

2225
01:37:48,850 --> 01:37:46,790
think there's something about the energy

2226
01:37:50,890 --> 01:37:48,860
that is caught when you when it's when

2227
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:50,900
it's made right there versus something

2228
01:37:54,370 --> 01:37:52,730
you sampled it's actually from another

2229
01:37:56,110 --> 01:37:54,380
time in place if that makes sense

2230
01:37:58,420 --> 01:37:56,120
it's kind of like it's that's kind of

2231
01:38:00,670 --> 01:37:58,430
dead yeah but you can make it alive

2232
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:00,680
again by recontextualizing it by you

2233
01:38:03,850 --> 01:38:01,970
know bringing it to the present moment

2234
01:38:04,930 --> 01:38:03,860
like the way a DJ does you know you're

2235
01:38:07,300 --> 01:38:04,940
playing a track that was already

2236
01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:07,310
recorded but but and you're kind of

2237
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:09,110
recontextualizing and making it relevant

2238
01:38:14,230 --> 01:38:11,330
like fresh again in a way but it'll

2239
01:38:16,300 --> 01:38:14,240
never be as fresh is what's made right

2240
01:38:18,130 --> 01:38:16,310
there like with the Sonics of the room

2241
01:38:19,870 --> 01:38:18,140
with the people who are breathing there

2242
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:19,880
with the guy yelling in the back with

2243
01:38:23,740 --> 01:38:21,170
the lady who dropped

2244
01:38:25,930 --> 01:38:23,750
like just something about all of that

2245
01:38:27,580 --> 01:38:25,940
right in the risk this is kind of the

2246
01:38:29,020 --> 01:38:27,590
element to I think people miss there's

2247
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something about when you have to take a

2248
01:38:32,620 --> 01:38:31,100
risk because when you get up there and

2249
01:38:33,730 --> 01:38:32,630
you're with those instruments you know

2250
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and those instruments are living

2251
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breathing kind of beings you know and

2252
01:38:38,380 --> 01:38:37,010
some of them they're not in tune or

2253
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:38,390
whatever they're having a bad day or

2254
01:38:42,790 --> 01:38:40,370
you're having a bad like all of that

2255
01:38:44,620 --> 01:38:42,800
there's a risk and people can feel that

2256
01:38:47,140 --> 01:38:44,630
energy that something could go wrong at

2257
01:38:49,060 --> 01:38:47,150
any given moment and it's all about your

2258
01:38:51,130 --> 01:38:49,070
professionalism I think the real masters

2259
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:51,140
are the ones who can take those mistakes

2260
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:52,970
right and when something goes horribly

2261
01:38:58,480 --> 01:38:55,370
wrong all of a sudden and turn it into a

2262
01:39:00,160 --> 01:38:58,490
success and flip it on its head and I

2263
01:39:02,380 --> 01:39:00,170
really that's going back to Bobby

2264
01:39:04,060 --> 01:39:02,390
McFerrin man he is a master at that who

2265
01:39:05,860 --> 01:39:04,070
can take a whole audience and just

2266
01:39:07,390 --> 01:39:05,870
literally make them part of the

2267
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:07,400
instrument make them part of the looper

2268
01:39:11,950 --> 01:39:09,440
and I feel like that's one of the things

2269
01:39:14,350 --> 01:39:11,960
I love to do as well in my performances

2270
01:39:15,820 --> 01:39:14,360
and you know when am i teaching to out

2271
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:15,830
you know I'd lead retreats as well where

2272
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:17,810
I I hope people really access their own

2273
01:39:20,980 --> 01:39:19,370
musical expression and creative

2274
01:39:23,980 --> 01:39:20,990
expression and whether they're musicians

2275
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:23,990
or not and for me it's it's really about

2276
01:39:29,380 --> 01:39:26,810
getting them connected into the ability

2277
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to be in the present moment to get into

2278
01:39:33,490 --> 01:39:31,550
that flow state because when we can do

2279
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:33,500
it no matter what our walk of life is

2280
01:39:37,900 --> 01:39:36,050
you know it really prepares us to facing

2281
01:39:39,790 --> 01:39:37,910
uncertainty of life because that's the

2282
01:39:41,260 --> 01:39:39,800
one thing we all know is the only thing

2283
01:39:47,940 --> 01:39:41,270
that's certain is that nothing is

2284
01:39:53,370 --> 01:39:50,380
everything else is that last one you

2285
01:39:55,540 --> 01:39:53,380
played yeah and what's the next one

2286
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:55,550
don't worry about the two notes from now

2287
01:39:59,860 --> 01:39:57,050
and actually Bobby McFerrin says this

2288
01:40:01,930 --> 01:39:59,870
Bobby says he says look improvisation is

2289
01:40:04,150 --> 01:40:01,940
actually not so hard he's like all you

2290
01:40:06,700 --> 01:40:04,160
gotta do is worry about the next note

2291
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:06,710
not the note not even the last note he's

2292
01:40:08,770 --> 01:40:07,730
like don't worry about the last note

2293
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:08,780
because he could have been on whatever

2294
01:40:12,580 --> 01:40:10,880
note but he's like the next note you

2295
01:40:14,860 --> 01:40:12,590
just focus on that not too much from now

2296
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:14,870
and not three notes ago as long as

2297
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:15,920
you're there and that present moment

2298
01:40:19,930 --> 01:40:18,530
working on the next one he's like you'll

2299
01:40:21,220 --> 01:40:19,940
go somewhere you'll go somewhere

2300
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:21,230
hopefully that place is beautiful

2301
01:40:24,970 --> 01:40:22,970
he's like sometimes I go places and it's

2302
01:40:26,530 --> 01:40:24,980
kind of whack but you know he's like but

2303
01:40:28,180 --> 01:40:26,540
the thing is the more you do it and you

2304
01:40:30,490 --> 01:40:28,190
kind of exercise that muscle with

2305
01:40:32,380 --> 01:40:30,500
improvisation he's like it gets easier

2306
01:40:34,570 --> 01:40:32,390
and actually you start to really

2307
01:40:35,050 --> 01:40:34,580
cultivate this ability to get on your

2308
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:35,060
surf

2309
01:40:41,230 --> 01:40:39,050
and go anywhere and create amazing

2310
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:41,240
things so I just I really encourage

2311
01:40:45,670 --> 01:40:43,970
anybody this is good for anybody because

2312
01:40:47,170 --> 01:40:45,680
it applies to everything in life you

2313
01:40:49,540 --> 01:40:47,180
know and it really makes you flexible

2314
01:40:51,820 --> 01:40:49,550
makes you in the neuroplasticity in your

2315
01:40:54,730 --> 01:40:51,830
mind you know more activated keeps you

2316
01:40:56,710 --> 01:40:54,740
younger keeps you more you know agile so

2317
01:40:58,810 --> 01:40:56,720
I really um yeah I can't stress it

2318
01:41:00,940 --> 01:40:58,820
enough man everybody really needs to try

2319
01:41:04,770 --> 01:41:00,950
to improvise whatever they're doing Rita

2320
01:41:09,190 --> 01:41:04,780
and I last month went to a flamenco

2321
01:41:10,990 --> 01:41:09,200
concert right dancers yeah and what most

2322
01:41:13,330 --> 01:41:11,000
people don't know when it comes to

2323
01:41:16,330 --> 01:41:13,340
flamenco that's 100 percent improvised

2324
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:16,340
and so you've got the dancer is

2325
01:41:24,180 --> 01:41:20,810
improvising the band is reacting to the

2326
01:41:27,820 --> 01:41:24,190
dancer they need to lock in

2327
01:41:31,090 --> 01:41:27,830
subconsciously right and when it is good

2328
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:31,100
it is about as good as anything that you

2329
01:41:37,660 --> 01:41:34,370
can go and see live yes they are in the

2330
01:41:40,060 --> 01:41:37,670
zone you get in the zone you know and

2331
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:40,070
you can feel it coming and everybody is

2332
01:41:45,130 --> 01:41:43,130
locked on man it is it is a beautiful

2333
01:41:47,620 --> 01:41:45,140
thing to see when improvisation is

2334
01:41:51,670 --> 01:41:47,630
correct it's just so wonderful all right

2335
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:51,680
now I just got a tweet okay and this is

2336
01:41:56,740 --> 01:41:54,970
a pretty interesting one in that do you

2337
01:41:59,620 --> 01:41:56,750
you're gonna love this

2338
01:42:02,800 --> 01:41:59,630
do you have any night watching spots in

2339
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:02,810
Arizona where you live to go and check

2340
01:42:07,780 --> 01:42:06,290
out activity in the sky wow that's a

2341
01:42:10,270 --> 01:42:07,790
great question

2342
01:42:12,340 --> 01:42:10,280
so Sedona is kind of a hot spot where I

2343
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:12,350
live is in the red rocks here Sedona and

2344
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:14,690
it's it's it's animate its a huge you

2345
01:42:18,550 --> 01:42:16,610
know planetarium observe Observatory

2346
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:18,560
here so there's a lots of that and

2347
01:42:22,660 --> 01:42:19,850
there's actually a lot of people here

2348
01:42:25,330 --> 01:42:22,670
who who really have seen a lot here I

2349
01:42:27,250 --> 01:42:25,340
personally though my spot if I were to

2350
01:42:29,620 --> 01:42:27,260
tell you the spot which is kind of a

2351
01:42:32,500 --> 01:42:29,630
hidden spot but it's down in

2352
01:42:34,660 --> 01:42:32,510
southwestern Arizona near the border

2353
01:42:37,530 --> 01:42:34,670
just past the San Carlos Apache rez in

2354
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:37,540
this little place called Eden Arizona

2355
01:42:42,490 --> 01:42:39,890
and there's some hot springs there that

2356
01:42:44,980 --> 01:42:42,500
are really magical and that been there

2357
01:42:46,930 --> 01:42:44,990
since back geronimo used to soak in

2358
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:46,940
these waters really really amazing

2359
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:48,810
sacred place sacred land

2360
01:42:51,860 --> 01:42:50,130
it's private property so you know you

2361
01:42:53,540 --> 01:42:51,870
kind of you have to come on a retreat or

2362
01:42:56,060 --> 01:42:53,550
with one of the groups to go there but I

2363
01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:56,070
tell you what the most activity I've

2364
01:43:00,290 --> 01:42:58,080
ever seen in the sky has been there and

2365
01:43:03,050 --> 01:43:00,300
I've had multiple instances with groups

2366
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:03,060
of people all like you see that yeah

2367
01:43:07,730 --> 01:43:05,730
yeah I saw that like we all saw and and

2368
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:07,740
just incredible phenomenons there and

2369
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:10,110
that's been my that's I would say well

2370
01:43:18,170 --> 01:43:12,690
someone to know my spot that's the one

2371
01:43:20,150 --> 01:43:18,180
they share with me down in Eden I I can

2372
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:20,160
only imagine you've had you know

2373
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:22,290
literally hundreds of things that you

2374
01:43:27,980 --> 01:43:25,650
have seen down there but because when it

2375
01:43:32,180 --> 01:43:27,990
jumps it jumps right we know yes right

2376
01:43:35,290 --> 01:43:32,190
but is there one event one sighting that

2377
01:43:39,020 --> 01:43:35,300
just stands out above all the others

2378
01:43:41,540 --> 01:43:39,030
mm-hmm yeah there's one there was one

2379
01:43:43,070 --> 01:43:41,550
night in particular where we're all

2380
01:43:45,230 --> 01:43:43,080
sitting here probably a group of about

2381
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:45,240
five to eight people and we were sitting

2382
01:43:48,710 --> 01:43:46,800
in one of the pools there's known as the

2383
01:43:50,480 --> 01:43:48,720
goddess pour the source ports it's the

2384
01:43:52,460 --> 01:43:50,490
top of these pools and it's amazing and

2385
01:43:54,860 --> 01:43:52,470
you're you're out there I mean nothing

2386
01:43:56,990 --> 01:43:54,870
out there I mean it's like totally open

2387
01:43:58,640 --> 01:43:57,000
sky and you're sitting in this beautiful

2388
01:44:00,110 --> 01:43:58,650
hot you know water that's bubbling up

2389
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:00,120
out of the earth right there are you

2390
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:08,970
asking for trouble man you know

2391
01:44:14,510 --> 01:44:11,730
literally it was just like these balls

2392
01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:14,520
of light and we had about four of them

2393
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:16,800
and they just go and they just like

2394
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:19,290
appear like no no like passing by they

2395
01:44:24,410 --> 01:44:21,570
just like up here and we're all seeing

2396
01:44:26,570 --> 01:44:24,420
there's it's like you know oh this is it

2397
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:26,580
like you know and we're watching these

2398
01:44:31,580 --> 01:44:28,410
these lights and they're just they're

2399
01:44:33,710 --> 01:44:31,590
hanging out they're very steady and you

2400
01:44:37,220 --> 01:44:33,720
know everyone's like yeah you see that

2401
01:44:38,750 --> 01:44:37,230
yeah oh it's like pinch me and we're

2402
01:44:41,090 --> 01:44:38,760
watching this and this goes on for

2403
01:44:43,480 --> 01:44:41,100
probably a good five to eight minutes

2404
01:44:46,700 --> 01:44:43,490
and then just like that

2405
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:46,710
they just they disappear what color were

2406
01:44:51,650 --> 01:44:50,130
they they were like an amber right it

2407
01:44:53,210 --> 01:44:51,660
was like an amber light I would say you

2408
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:53,220
know closest thing I get to Amber I

2409
01:44:57,740 --> 01:44:55,530
could think of and just steady like a

2410
01:45:01,010 --> 01:44:57,750
steady glow and then guess what this is

2411
01:45:02,689 --> 01:45:01,020
the really trippy part about eight

2412
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:02,699
minutes passes buyers so

2413
01:45:09,110 --> 01:45:05,250
if that and all of a sudden we see these

2414
01:45:10,729 --> 01:45:09,120
f-16s jetting around like kind of

2415
01:45:12,410 --> 01:45:10,739
scramble like going back and forth

2416
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:12,420
across the sky right where those lights

2417
01:45:20,300 --> 01:45:18,090
were like oh you know right Wow

2418
01:45:21,919 --> 01:45:20,310
right it died just like that was mind

2419
01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:21,929
boggling you know that one to this day

2420
01:45:25,550 --> 01:45:23,520
that's probably the most incredible ones

2421
01:45:27,919 --> 01:45:25,560
we were just like yeah you know what

2422
01:45:30,130 --> 01:45:27,929
were you were you taking me to that

2423
01:45:32,540 --> 01:45:30,140
moment where you guys talking about

2424
01:45:38,919 --> 01:45:32,550
hoping to see something were you

2425
01:45:45,260 --> 01:45:41,390
just kind of holding space you know just

2426
01:45:46,790 --> 01:45:45,270
like really in in awe and and yeah just

2427
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:46,800
it was it was like a moment of silence

2428
01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:48,330
like no one was speaking really a word

2429
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:49,679
well it was you know other than the

2430
01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:52,410
initial like y'all see that and then and

2431
01:45:55,370 --> 01:45:54,000
then we just were just kind of holding

2432
01:45:58,610 --> 01:45:55,380
space it was one of those moments to

2433
01:46:03,110 --> 01:45:58,620
where like time kind of froze it felt

2434
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:03,120
like you could hear the trickle of the

2435
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:04,650
water like seeping up out of the ground

2436
01:46:08,780 --> 01:46:06,690
like into the pools where we were and it

2437
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:08,790
was just everyone was just there in this

2438
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:11,130
you know just feeling oh yeah these are

2439
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:12,810
our relatives you know I mean we're not

2440
01:46:19,939 --> 01:46:15,690
alone and is there is the star nation

2441
01:46:23,570 --> 01:46:19,949
and and thinking about it now is there

2442
01:46:26,930 --> 01:46:23,580
any doubt that that was in response to

2443
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:26,940
you that they were they were saying

2444
01:46:32,060 --> 01:46:29,690
hello it was a wink it was a drive-by

2445
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:32,070
yeah that's that's a really good

2446
01:46:35,390 --> 01:46:32,489
question

2447
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:35,400
you know I I feel the space that

2448
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:37,410
everyone was in so we just finished when

2449
01:46:40,910 --> 01:46:38,850
that all happened we just finished a

2450
01:46:43,010 --> 01:46:40,920
retreat there we used to host these

2451
01:46:44,510 --> 01:46:43,020
retreats out at Eden hot springs where

2452
01:46:45,620 --> 01:46:44,520
we bring out various speakers um

2453
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:45,630
I don't know if you ever heard of David

2454
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:48,690
Wolfe horse you were hanging out with

2455
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:51,449
David Wolfe yeah you're gonna hang out

2456
01:46:57,290 --> 01:46:55,530
with you he used to run these retreats

2457
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:57,300
out there where we would also work with

2458
01:47:00,830 --> 01:46:59,040
him and then other people we'd bring out

2459
01:47:02,959 --> 01:47:00,840
different speakers like you know various

2460
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:02,969
people from Daniel Pinchbeck different

2461
01:47:06,979 --> 01:47:05,730
authors oh yeah really cool people

2462
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:06,989
really really need kind of

2463
01:47:09,979 --> 01:47:08,400
forward-thinking people and they've come

2464
01:47:12,500 --> 01:47:09,989
out to eat in because it's amazing place

2465
01:47:14,990 --> 01:47:12,510
and we do like heavy talks and we do

2466
01:47:16,759 --> 01:47:15,000
music I play for people in the big pool

2467
01:47:19,189 --> 01:47:16,769
which is like this is the large

2468
01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:19,199
outdoor body of water bigger than an

2469
01:47:22,819 --> 01:47:21,209
Olympic sized pool in all the Southwest

2470
01:47:24,739 --> 01:47:22,829
maybe in the country that is heated

2471
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:24,749
naturally and it's basically like a

2472
01:47:28,250 --> 01:47:27,090
massive float tank it's amazing and so

2473
01:47:29,509 --> 01:47:28,260
you're sitting out there just under the

2474
01:47:31,100 --> 01:47:29,519
galaxy you look at the Milky Way

2475
01:47:33,529 --> 01:47:31,110
floating on your back you know and this

2476
01:47:34,879 --> 01:47:33,539
giant float tank and and then I'm

2477
01:47:36,679 --> 01:47:34,889
playing music to people it's like my

2478
01:47:38,509 --> 01:47:36,689
favorite place to play music and by the

2479
01:47:40,369 --> 01:47:38,519
way clothing is optional usually

2480
01:47:41,629 --> 01:47:40,379
everyone's naked for those out there

2481
01:47:44,419 --> 01:47:41,639
don't I hope doesn't freak anyone out

2482
01:47:46,219 --> 01:47:44,429
but um it's amazing so my favorite gig

2483
01:47:47,419 --> 01:47:46,229
is I like to joke about this because you

2484
01:47:49,609 --> 01:47:47,429
know people used to tell you in school

2485
01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:49,619
where you learn how to speak to a public

2486
01:47:53,929 --> 01:47:51,119
audience they'd be like oh visualize

2487
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:53,939
everyone's naked and so the funniest

2488
01:47:59,029 --> 01:47:56,010
thing for me is playing music for a pool

2489
01:48:00,560 --> 01:47:59,039
full of naked people and I'm like hey I

2490
01:48:03,169 --> 01:48:00,570
can't use that visualization this is

2491
01:48:05,060 --> 01:48:03,179
kind of funny but it's incredible you

2492
01:48:06,409 --> 01:48:05,070
know and I'm and we have the sub set up

2493
01:48:08,899 --> 01:48:06,419
so they're sending these these sub

2494
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:08,909
frequencies into the water which just is

2495
01:48:13,189 --> 01:48:11,280
incredible you know you get experience I

2496
01:48:15,020 --> 01:48:13,199
think some of my best music is there

2497
01:48:17,540 --> 01:48:15,030
because I'm so tuned into the land there

2498
01:48:19,189 --> 01:48:17,550
and obviously the star people are super

2499
01:48:21,049 --> 01:48:19,199
activated there and getting to play

2500
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:21,059
music you know and in water that's

2501
01:48:26,299 --> 01:48:23,010
coming right out of the earth like that

2502
01:48:27,770 --> 01:48:26,309
you know have you have you when you go

2503
01:48:31,279 --> 01:48:27,780
through an experience like that have you

2504
01:48:35,029 --> 01:48:31,289
have you made contact have you have you

2505
01:48:38,029 --> 01:48:35,039
done a communication with yourself I'm

2506
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:38,039
just just psychically just yes yes yes

2507
01:48:42,589 --> 01:48:41,010
yeah yeah for me you know it just it

2508
01:48:43,790 --> 01:48:42,599
feels like for instance when that

2509
01:48:45,319 --> 01:48:43,800
happened so we just finished one of

2510
01:48:46,729 --> 01:48:45,329
those retreats we were kind of is like

2511
01:48:48,619 --> 01:48:46,739
some of the staff like kind of the crew

2512
01:48:50,089 --> 01:48:48,629
you know that we're there at the end and

2513
01:48:51,529 --> 01:48:50,099
just having our hangout night like

2514
01:48:55,790 --> 01:48:51,539
before we were all gonna part our ways

2515
01:48:57,859 --> 01:48:55,800
and you know we were I was very deep in

2516
01:49:01,250 --> 01:48:57,869
a meditative space like I was and I I

2517
01:49:03,500 --> 01:49:01,260
told you know felt this presence felt

2518
01:49:04,879 --> 01:49:03,510
this connection it was very much felt

2519
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:04,889
like there was a connection they were

2520
01:49:07,549 --> 01:49:06,239
responding to us because we're kind of

2521
01:49:09,169 --> 01:49:07,559
out in the middle of nowhere there's

2522
01:49:11,330 --> 01:49:09,179
nobody else around kind of the things so

2523
01:49:13,369 --> 01:49:11,340
it's it felt very much like there was a

2524
01:49:16,100 --> 01:49:13,379
reason why they chose to appear to us

2525
01:49:21,169 --> 01:49:16,110
right there you know at that time and

2526
01:49:23,419 --> 01:49:21,179
yeah I felt like it was just for me in

2527
01:49:26,919 --> 01:49:23,429
my own trajectory it felt very much like

2528
01:49:30,440 --> 01:49:26,929
this reminder that we are not alone a

2529
01:49:32,030 --> 01:49:30,450
and B to trust you know

2530
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:32,040
there's a lot of shifts happening right

2531
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:34,080
now on the planet and you know there's a

2532
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:36,000
lot of fear around those shifts these

2533
01:49:41,150 --> 01:49:38,370
changes that we're we are part of and

2534
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:41,160
and they're also you know yeah

2535
01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:43,650
co-creation with we're in this dialogue

2536
01:49:49,730 --> 01:49:46,080
and I feel like my personal hit in that

2537
01:49:52,310 --> 01:49:49,740
in that moment was like it is okay this

2538
01:49:54,530 --> 01:49:52,320
is all unfolding as it needs to continue

2539
01:49:57,370 --> 01:49:54,540
to do the work that you're doing because

2540
01:50:00,710 --> 01:49:57,380
that is helping this greater plan unfold

2541
01:50:02,480 --> 01:50:00,720
you know and the for the you know the

2542
01:50:04,610 --> 01:50:02,490
skeptics out there that are that are

2543
01:50:08,180 --> 01:50:04,620
listening to this that just don't get it

2544
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:08,190
the only thing that will solve the issue

2545
01:50:17,480 --> 01:50:12,930
for them is to have that moment happen

2546
01:50:20,870 --> 01:50:17,490
when something appears on command

2547
01:50:23,060 --> 01:50:20,880
because it happens all the time but they

2548
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:23,070
haven't witnessed it right and so they

2549
01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:26,130
they just think this is we have mental

2550
01:50:35,330 --> 01:50:33,450
issues with eight people there and and

2551
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:35,340
then the f-16s roll in right you were

2552
01:50:38,270 --> 01:50:36,810
kind of there was like no doubt like

2553
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:38,280
that was kind of like for me you know

2554
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:40,170
you could be skeptical like maybe was a

2555
01:50:46,430 --> 01:50:42,570
flare so it was like no that was it was

2556
01:50:49,970 --> 01:50:46,440
clear as it was what it was you know we

2557
01:50:52,430 --> 01:50:49,980
were out we're out in we were out in

2558
01:50:54,170 --> 01:50:52,440
Twentynine Palms Joshua Tree right in

2559
01:50:56,330 --> 01:50:54,180
the middle of the desert and we got

2560
01:50:59,900 --> 01:50:56,340
about I don't know 10 15 of us together

2561
01:51:02,210 --> 01:50:59,910
and we're out on this patio out and I'm

2562
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:02,220
literally in the middle of the desert by

2563
01:51:08,150 --> 01:51:05,130
the way nothing around us and somebody

2564
01:51:10,310 --> 01:51:08,160
says Amen is it's about 10 o'clock at

2565
01:51:13,460 --> 01:51:10,320
night dark nothing but dark desert

2566
01:51:19,700 --> 01:51:13,470
around us even would it be cool men if a

2567
01:51:22,910 --> 01:51:19,710
UFO just showed up at that exact instant

2568
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:22,920
not 10 minutes right I mean right then

2569
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:25,770
how in the blackness of the desert this

2570
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:30,170
white ball shot off of the desert floor

2571
01:51:37,550 --> 01:51:32,730
straight up straight straight straight

2572
01:51:41,660 --> 01:51:37,560
line into the Stars and disappeared and

2573
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:41,670
it lasted about two seconds hmm right on

2574
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:44,010
command well

2575
01:51:52,260 --> 01:51:48,370
so the next day for our game the next

2576
01:51:54,149 --> 01:51:52,270
day I walk out of the cabin and I look

2577
01:51:56,010 --> 01:51:54,159
out across the desert just trying to get

2578
01:51:59,399 --> 01:51:56,020
my bearings where this thing was and

2579
01:52:02,129 --> 01:51:59,409
there is nothing there man nothing but

2580
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:02,139
cactus all the way to the mountains and

2581
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:05,440
I'm just looking at just wow that was

2582
01:52:09,870 --> 01:52:08,530
cool but again bring a skeptic out at

2583
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:09,880
that moment when something like that

2584
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:12,370
happens so you know and that's how you

2585
01:52:16,410 --> 01:52:14,290
deal with them and that's the only thing

2586
01:52:19,260 --> 01:52:16,420
that they will understand it you know

2587
01:52:20,879 --> 01:52:19,270
yeah with you they gotta have the

2588
01:52:22,500 --> 01:52:20,889
experience I think themselves it's one

2589
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:22,510
of those things right it's like once

2590
01:52:26,129 --> 01:52:24,370
you've had that experience because like

2591
01:52:28,020 --> 01:52:26,139
I've always I've always believed you

2592
01:52:30,570 --> 01:52:28,030
know just just just knowing what I know

2593
01:52:32,370 --> 01:52:30,580
about cosmology in understanding

2594
01:52:34,020 --> 01:52:32,380
astrophysics and understanding how big

2595
01:52:35,970 --> 01:52:34,030
the universe you know what we're dealing

2596
01:52:37,770 --> 01:52:35,980
with here I mean Carl Sagan right it

2597
01:52:40,860 --> 01:52:37,780
would say it the best is like just the

2598
01:52:42,689 --> 01:52:40,870
sheer math you know size of what we're

2599
01:52:44,669 --> 01:52:42,699
dealing with the likelihood of us being

2600
01:52:48,060 --> 01:52:44,679
the only life in the whole universe is

2601
01:52:51,209 --> 01:52:48,070
highly unlikely well you know and what

2602
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:51,219
Carl Sagan used to say if he was around

2603
01:52:59,580 --> 01:52:56,080
today with one we now know he would even

2604
01:53:00,689 --> 01:52:59,590
take though that whole mindset way out

2605
01:53:02,850 --> 01:53:00,699
to another level

2606
01:53:05,310 --> 01:53:02,860
he's say billions and billions right

2607
01:53:08,010 --> 01:53:05,320
well how he would say trillions and

2608
01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:08,020
trillions it's a whole nother party you

2609
01:53:14,490 --> 01:53:10,480
know our Milky Way has got you know a

2610
01:53:16,709 --> 01:53:14,500
hundred billion planets back when Carl

2611
01:53:19,860 --> 01:53:16,719
Sagan was alive we were wondering if

2612
01:53:22,410 --> 01:53:19,870
there was one right right let alone if

2613
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:22,420
there was water outside of the earth

2614
01:53:27,890 --> 01:53:25,330
right now we've found clouds of water

2615
01:53:30,780 --> 01:53:27,900
floating around in space but yeah and

2616
01:53:34,530 --> 01:53:30,790
what do you think ultimately is is is

2617
01:53:36,689 --> 01:53:34,540
going on with with the connection and

2618
01:53:41,010 --> 01:53:36,699
with consciousness and with the ability

2619
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:41,020
to go to these other dimensions not only

2620
01:53:47,450 --> 01:53:43,449
with ayahuasca and DMT but through

2621
01:53:50,010 --> 01:53:47,460
ceremony or through meditation and

2622
01:53:53,250 --> 01:53:50,020
science is now proving that this is real

2623
01:53:55,410 --> 01:53:53,260
too but with the things like the orange

2624
01:53:56,919 --> 01:53:55,420
orbs that you have seen and the things

2625
01:53:59,950 --> 01:53:56,929
that are going on now

2626
01:54:01,750 --> 01:53:59,960
is is et trying to send us a message is

2627
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:01,760
is there something going on that

2628
01:54:06,430 --> 01:54:03,530
eventually the man isn't going to be

2629
01:54:09,220 --> 01:54:06,440
able to deny anymore hmm

2630
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:09,230
yeah you know there's wow I mean that's

2631
01:54:16,090 --> 01:54:12,770
a it's a huge can of worms the one I

2632
01:54:17,110 --> 01:54:16,100
think for me what I what I feel it you

2633
01:54:18,459 --> 01:54:17,120
know there's kind of like what I know

2634
01:54:22,510 --> 01:54:18,469
and then there's like what I feel

2635
01:54:26,140 --> 01:54:22,520
intuitively and ultimately I feel and it

2636
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:26,150
doesn't neither those really matter if

2637
01:54:29,470 --> 01:54:27,650
that makes sense like I I feel because

2638
01:54:32,020 --> 01:54:29,480
ultimately it's kind of coming back to

2639
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:32,030
it and it all comes back to a really

2640
01:54:35,500 --> 01:54:33,890
simple teaching that I think you can you

2641
01:54:36,850 --> 01:54:35,510
can find it in all our spiritual

2642
01:54:38,979 --> 01:54:36,860
traditions no matter whether they're

2643
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:38,989
indigenous all the way to any of your

2644
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:40,730
class you know the major religions of

2645
01:54:45,729 --> 01:54:43,250
the world they're all trying to help us

2646
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:45,739
remember one basic thing and that's how

2647
01:54:48,970 --> 01:54:47,570
to be a better relative they're all

2648
01:54:50,140 --> 01:54:48,980
trying to teach us how to be a better

2649
01:54:52,270 --> 01:54:50,150
relative and I don't just mean a

2650
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:52,280
relative to your own kin or to even your

2651
01:54:56,380 --> 01:54:53,570
own species but how to be a better

2652
01:55:00,070 --> 01:54:56,390
relative to all things right and I feel

2653
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:00,080
that ultimately as human beings the

2654
01:55:03,939 --> 01:55:01,730
invitation that we have right now and

2655
01:55:05,770 --> 01:55:03,949
it's been on our honor you know

2656
01:55:08,290 --> 01:55:05,780
the offering the invitation that's been

2657
01:55:10,990 --> 01:55:08,300
on our front step if you will our whole

2658
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:11,000
existence has been inviting us to step

2659
01:55:17,140 --> 01:55:13,250
into our real role and kind of claim our

2660
01:55:19,570 --> 01:55:17,150
role as the light bearers as the keepers

2661
01:55:21,189 --> 01:55:19,580
of the fire and the earth stewards we

2662
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:21,199
are shepherds of this earth you know

2663
01:55:24,820 --> 01:55:23,090
this is this beautiful little jewel of a

2664
01:55:27,010 --> 01:55:24,830
planet that we have here we've been

2665
01:55:29,290 --> 01:55:27,020
gifted this and whether we're coming

2666
01:55:31,630 --> 01:55:29,300
from a hybrid you know you know DNA

2667
01:55:32,890 --> 01:55:31,640
that's part alien or not I mean at the

2668
01:55:34,209 --> 01:55:32,900
end of the day this is kind of the thing

2669
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:34,219
I think is important because I feel

2670
01:55:37,750 --> 01:55:36,050
people get almost too caught up in that

2671
01:55:40,689 --> 01:55:37,760
and they miss what's really important

2672
01:55:43,479 --> 01:55:40,699
which is how do we show up as better

2673
01:55:46,419 --> 01:55:43,489
relatives right now using what we've got

2674
01:55:49,330 --> 01:55:46,429
right now and actually be able to show

2675
01:55:51,399 --> 01:55:49,340
up in a good way and steward this next

2676
01:55:53,410 --> 01:55:51,409
shift which is happening very fast right

2677
01:55:56,350 --> 01:55:53,420
we're we're accelerating as we all know

2678
01:55:57,970 --> 01:55:56,360
to this singularity you know the you

2679
01:55:59,830 --> 01:55:57,980
know the Kurzweil talks about and other

2680
01:56:01,810 --> 01:55:59,840
people talk about where we're having

2681
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:01,820
this merger happening this technology is

2682
01:56:06,010 --> 01:56:03,679
rushing right in here me as an artist

2683
01:56:08,290 --> 01:56:06,020
you know trying to navigate this and

2684
01:56:10,870 --> 01:56:08,300
using technology as part of my to love

2685
01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:10,880
my instruments and it's like how do

2686
01:56:16,959 --> 01:56:14,000
we learn to live and be in right

2687
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:16,969
relation with fire and I say fire when

2688
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:18,050
like I was talking about earlier it's

2689
01:56:23,110 --> 01:56:20,690
technology which is fire and so how do

2690
01:56:25,090 --> 01:56:23,120
we balance and work with fire so that we

2691
01:56:27,370 --> 01:56:25,100
use it to illuminate the darkness as

2692
01:56:29,530 --> 01:56:27,380
opposed to incinerate everything around

2693
01:56:32,020 --> 01:56:29,540
us and so I think it's a really powerful

2694
01:56:33,790 --> 01:56:32,030
moment and so these teachers and there's

2695
01:56:35,709 --> 01:56:33,800
various forms of this technology that's

2696
01:56:36,939 --> 01:56:35,719
here to teach us including all of these

2697
01:56:39,100 --> 01:56:36,949
amazing plants you know it's no

2698
01:56:41,260 --> 01:56:39,110
coincidence I hope people get this it's

2699
01:56:43,570 --> 01:56:41,270
not a coincidence that we have receptor

2700
01:56:44,919 --> 01:56:43,580
sites in our brains that allow us to

2701
01:56:46,899 --> 01:56:44,929
work with these plants right they

2702
01:56:49,479 --> 01:56:46,909
there's a reason it's a keen a lock man

2703
01:56:52,419 --> 01:56:49,489
the key and the lock fit perfectly with

2704
01:56:53,950 --> 01:56:52,429
DMT right with with psilocybin with all

2705
01:56:56,530 --> 01:56:53,960
of these various molecules I mean

2706
01:56:59,140 --> 01:56:56,540
there's numerous ones that open up our

2707
01:57:02,200 --> 01:56:59,150
ability to perceive beyond what is just

2708
01:57:04,689 --> 01:57:02,210
on the surface and now it's kind of

2709
01:57:07,090 --> 01:57:04,699
ironic that the coolest science that

2710
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:07,100
exists is the science that deals with

2711
01:57:10,510 --> 01:57:08,960
the stuff that's hard to measure that

2712
01:57:12,070 --> 01:57:10,520
isn't on the surface right I'm talking

2713
01:57:14,110 --> 01:57:12,080
quantum we're talking things like that

2714
01:57:16,060 --> 01:57:14,120
right this that's right the stuff that

2715
01:57:17,860 --> 01:57:16,070
is super mundane and just can measure

2716
01:57:19,540 --> 01:57:17,870
the surfaces and stuff is the stuff

2717
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:19,550
that's been dominating kind of the

2718
01:57:22,750 --> 01:57:20,810
popular you know all the power

2719
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:22,760
institutions that around us and so it's

2720
01:57:26,439 --> 01:57:24,650
very limited right it's locked us and it

2721
01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:26,449
doesn't want us to move past that's

2722
01:57:29,709 --> 01:57:28,400
scared of what's gonna happen because

2723
01:57:31,870 --> 01:57:29,719
all the power structures that be are

2724
01:57:33,970 --> 01:57:31,880
gonna come tumbling well as we awaken

2725
01:57:35,649 --> 01:57:33,980
and we are awakening to this reality

2726
01:57:37,330 --> 01:57:35,659
right that is beyond the reality that

2727
01:57:39,610 --> 01:57:37,340
we've been kind of fed and indoctrinated

2728
01:57:41,290 --> 01:57:39,620
and I would argue colonized you know

2729
01:57:42,700 --> 01:57:41,300
we're all in this kind of colonization

2730
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:42,710
now it's corporate colonization

2731
01:57:46,390 --> 01:57:44,690
capitalism you know we've all been fed

2732
01:57:47,830 --> 01:57:46,400
this kind of thing where we're just

2733
01:57:49,810 --> 01:57:47,840
supposed to be a good cog in the wheel

2734
01:57:52,450 --> 01:57:49,820
and now that's being exacerbated with

2735
01:57:53,890 --> 01:57:52,460
technology is being twisted AI that what

2736
01:57:55,660 --> 01:57:53,900
it could be used for is actually being

2737
01:57:57,310 --> 01:57:55,670
used for advertising right and how to

2738
01:57:58,990 --> 01:57:57,320
manipulate us even further and to just

2739
01:58:01,990 --> 01:57:59,000
buying more [\h__\h] we don't need

2740
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:02,000
right well if I was president if I was

2741
01:58:08,379 --> 01:58:05,330
president right and you got elected to

2742
01:58:12,129 --> 01:58:08,389
Congress or to the Senate you would have

2743
01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:12,139
to go through one ayahuasca ceremony

2744
01:58:20,020 --> 01:58:15,440
that's what I that's what I would you

2745
01:58:22,239 --> 01:58:20,030
imagine the paradigm shift that very did

2746
01:58:24,669 --> 01:58:22,249
that that would be a brave new world

2747
01:58:26,709 --> 01:58:24,679
our guest tonight brought on key I am

2748
01:58:30,180 --> 01:58:26,719
your host Jimmy Church we'll be right

2749
01:58:33,710 --> 01:58:30,190
back after this short break stay with us

2750
01:58:40,830 --> 01:58:35,940
everybody's Rob Halford the mental guard

2751
01:58:46,660 --> 01:58:44,110
this is kera digital broadcasting

2752
01:58:49,900 --> 01:58:46,670
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2753
01:58:51,610 --> 01:58:49,910
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2754
01:58:52,630 --> 01:58:51,620
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2755
01:58:54,850 --> 01:58:52,640
getting worse

2756
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:54,860
municipalities can't keep up standards

2757
01:58:59,470 --> 01:58:56,330
have dropped and pollutants are

2758
01:59:01,300 --> 01:58:59,480
increasing where does it all end it ends

2759
01:59:03,010 --> 01:59:01,310
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2760
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:03,020
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2761
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2762
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2763
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2764
01:59:12,460 --> 01:59:11,030
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2765
01:59:15,370 --> 01:59:12,470
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2766
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:15,380
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2767
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2768
01:59:22,300 --> 01:59:19,160
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2769
01:59:24,460 --> 01:59:22,310
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2770
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:24,470
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2771
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:26,090
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2772
01:59:29,910 --> 01:59:28,010
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2773
01:59:32,050 --> 01:59:29,920
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2774
01:59:34,090 --> 01:59:32,060
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2775
01:59:35,980 --> 01:59:34,100
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2776
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2777
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2778
01:59:44,300 --> 01:59:41,660
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2779
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:44,310
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2780
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2781
01:59:51,270 --> 01:59:48,510
[Music]

2782
01:59:52,550 --> 01:59:51,280
your contact for current news and

2783
01:59:56,490 --> 01:59:52,560
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2784
01:59:58,590 --> 01:59:56,500
KCRA radio.com does your basement or

2785
02:00:00,300 --> 01:59:58,600
crawlspace have a damp musty smell while

2786
02:00:02,490 --> 02:00:00,310
watch out that's a sign of too much

2787
02:00:04,350 --> 02:00:02,500
moisture and not enough ventilation and

2788
02:00:06,060 --> 02:00:04,360
that can mean increased mold growth and

2789
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:06,070
their build-up of harmful toxins and

2790
02:00:10,140 --> 02:00:07,840
gases don't bother with a dehumidifier

2791
02:00:12,450 --> 02:00:10,150
it just circulates the same unhealthy

2792
02:00:14,550 --> 02:00:12,460
air now there's a better way to remove

2793
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:14,560
these dangers and odors it's with the

2794
02:00:18,750 --> 02:00:16,930
computerized wave moisture control unit

2795
02:00:20,370 --> 02:00:18,760
that reduces moisture and expels

2796
02:00:22,380 --> 02:00:20,380
pollutants we replaced our old

2797
02:00:24,630 --> 02:00:22,390
dehumidifier with the wave unit and in

2798
02:00:27,030 --> 02:00:24,640
only three weeks our basement is dry and

2799
02:00:29,010 --> 02:00:27,040
the musty smell is gone wave units

2800
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:29,020
require no maintenance no buckets of

2801
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:31,450
water or filters and costs only pennies

2802
02:00:35,130 --> 02:00:33,370
a day to run breathe better live

2803
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:35,140
healthier with an affordable no

2804
02:00:39,900 --> 02:00:37,570
maintenance wave unit call eight eight

2805
02:00:43,229 --> 02:00:39,910
eight seven one seven way eight eight

2806
02:00:48,950 --> 02:00:43,239
eight seven one seven wav e for busy dry

2807
02:00:55,330 --> 02:00:51,860
we own solutions

2808
02:00:59,570 --> 02:00:57,649
this is Jimmy Church of fade to black

2809
02:01:02,780 --> 02:00:59,580
and I only drink

2810
02:01:05,300 --> 02:01:02,790
fade to black blend coffee from River

2811
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:05,310
Moon just click on the River Moon coffee

2812
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:08,250
banner at Jimmy Church radio.com promo

2813
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:12,330
code f2 b blend so are you tired of

2814
02:01:17,270 --> 02:01:14,850
being tired well then it's time to get

2815
02:01:19,669 --> 02:01:17,280
the tea hey it's Lisa here to tell you

2816
02:01:21,470 --> 02:01:19,679
about this all-natural all organic tea

2817
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:21,480
I've been drinking that has had great

2818
02:01:26,030 --> 02:01:23,130
results for over 20 years

2819
02:01:27,890 --> 02:01:26,040
it's called life changed tea and it's

2820
02:01:30,470 --> 02:01:27,900
specially formulated to help detoxify

2821
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:30,480
and cleanse your kidneys liver colon and

2822
02:01:34,580 --> 02:01:33,210
blood all at once the colon is one of

2823
02:01:37,340 --> 02:01:34,590
the most ignored organs in the human

2824
02:01:39,169 --> 02:01:37,350
body the faster that waste is eliminated

2825
02:01:41,180 --> 02:01:39,179
from the body the less time that way

2826
02:01:43,070 --> 02:01:41,190
sits in our intestines sprinting toxins

2827
02:01:45,050 --> 02:01:43,080
to our bloodstream this tea helps

2828
02:01:46,910 --> 02:01:45,060
cleanse chemicals caused by outside

2829
02:01:49,970 --> 02:01:46,920
intruders from our entire digestive

2830
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:49,980
system and get this weight loss can be a

2831
02:01:54,500 --> 02:01:52,290
side effect and with continued use of

2832
02:01:56,930 --> 02:01:54,510
the tea you can experience clearer

2833
02:01:59,600 --> 02:01:56,940
healthier younger looking skin increased

2834
02:02:01,010 --> 02:01:59,610
energy and a happier outlook on life so

2835
02:02:03,890 --> 02:02:01,020
if you're tired of being tired

2836
02:02:04,700 --> 02:02:03,900
get the life change tea at get the tea

2837
02:02:09,310 --> 02:02:04,710
calm

2838
02:02:11,479 --> 02:02:09,320
you'll be glad you did

2839
02:02:13,189 --> 02:02:11,489
did you know that when you're on the

2840
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:13,199
road with limited data or Wi-Fi

2841
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:15,690
available you can still listen to every

2842
02:02:20,390 --> 02:02:17,610
minute of fade to black by just calling

2843
02:02:23,419 --> 02:02:20,400
six oh five five six two four four eight

2844
02:02:25,910 --> 02:02:23,429
two no smartphone app or Internet needed

2845
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:25,920
it saves your data plan and no extra

2846
02:02:31,310 --> 02:02:28,530
cost if you have unlimited minutes just

2847
02:02:33,500 --> 02:02:31,320
call six oh five five six two four four

2848
02:02:36,229 --> 02:02:33,510
eight two you can listen to me Jimmy

2849
02:02:43,060 --> 02:02:36,239
Church on any phone anytime anywhere

2850
02:02:47,100 --> 02:02:44,760
[Music]

2851
02:02:49,390 --> 02:02:47,110
[Applause]

2852
02:02:53,500 --> 02:02:49,400
you want to know a secret

2853
02:02:56,440 --> 02:02:53,510
I love police I really love ponies I'm

2854
02:02:59,700 --> 02:02:56,450
serious I couldn't stay sane without

2855
02:03:06,209 --> 02:02:59,710
poor mr. Brooks why fade to black

2856
02:03:10,209 --> 02:03:08,080
this is fade to black

2857
02:03:13,900 --> 02:03:10,219
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

2858
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:13,910
radio network and kgr a the global radio

2859
02:03:28,300 --> 02:03:16,290
alliance

2860
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:28,310
[Music]

2861
02:03:34,370 --> 02:03:30,570
welcome back fade to black our meals in

2862
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:34,380
juvey church on the GameChanger network

2863
02:03:41,750 --> 02:03:38,010
and kg are a the planet i guess the

2864
02:03:44,690 --> 02:03:41,760
night for donkeys now world musician

2865
02:03:46,820 --> 02:03:44,700
fully awoke we're talking ET and i want

2866
02:03:48,620 --> 02:03:46,830
to get back a little bit if you don't

2867
02:03:51,500 --> 02:03:48,630
mind to where we were when we left off

2868
02:03:54,130 --> 02:03:51,510
because you bring a you bring up a

2869
02:03:59,150 --> 02:03:54,140
really important point which is that

2870
02:04:02,690 --> 02:03:59,160
there are a large number in in our

2871
02:04:04,370 --> 02:04:02,700
community if not the world that they

2872
02:04:06,620 --> 02:04:04,380
don't need some type of official

2873
02:04:07,850 --> 02:04:06,630
disclosure they've had their experiences

2874
02:04:10,010 --> 02:04:07,860
they have their sightings they have

2875
02:04:12,050 --> 02:04:10,020
their beliefs and they're ok with the

2876
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:12,060
way you know they they just want to move

2877
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:14,010
forward with consciousness and awakening

2878
02:04:18,410 --> 02:04:16,770
and and that's fine but then there's the

2879
02:04:20,590 --> 02:04:18,420
other half of the community and this

2880
02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:20,600
beautiful community of ours is

2881
02:04:25,490 --> 02:04:23,250
infighting about this very subject and

2882
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:25,500
there's the other half that want the

2883
02:04:30,950 --> 02:04:28,650
government to admit to contact they want

2884
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:30,960
to admit to them withholding technology

2885
02:04:36,890 --> 02:04:34,050
they want to and until that type of

2886
02:04:40,220 --> 02:04:36,900
disclosure happens nothing is good

2887
02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:40,230
enough and and and i understand both

2888
02:04:44,330 --> 02:04:42,330
sides but I've had my sightings I've

2889
02:04:47,120 --> 02:04:44,340
seen the things that you know so I you

2890
02:04:49,490 --> 02:04:47,130
know I don't need any any proof to come

2891
02:04:53,630 --> 02:04:49,500
from the government to change or you

2892
02:04:56,170 --> 02:04:53,640
know solidify my experiences but that's

2893
02:04:59,900 --> 02:04:56,180
the problem that we have today isn't it

2894
02:05:01,820 --> 02:04:59,910
yeah yeah totally yeah I don't I don't

2895
02:05:06,140 --> 02:05:01,830
look for validity ever from the

2896
02:05:08,330 --> 02:05:06,150
government so it's like you know I kind

2897
02:05:11,410 --> 02:05:08,340
of like for me it's like a government

2898
02:05:12,770 --> 02:05:11,420
shutdown it's kind of what's going on

2899
02:05:14,510 --> 02:05:12,780
you know

2900
02:05:16,610 --> 02:05:14,520
it's it's kind of a ridiculous thing

2901
02:05:18,860 --> 02:05:16,620
it's mostly a pain in the ass I think

2902
02:05:20,030 --> 02:05:18,870
for us because I can't call the IRS

2903
02:05:21,140 --> 02:05:20,040
because they're after me because I

2904
02:05:24,010 --> 02:05:21,150
didn't have health insurance glow a

2905
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:24,020
musician you know right right right

2906
02:05:28,940 --> 02:05:26,970
ridiculous so at the end I think the

2907
02:05:30,950 --> 02:05:28,950
important pieces and that's kind of what

2908
02:05:33,350 --> 02:05:30,960
I was I was touching on we went to break

2909
02:05:35,330 --> 02:05:33,360
is that you know I feel a lot of people

2910
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:35,340
get overwhelmed and they kind of almost

2911
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:37,650
get apathetic or they get shut down and

2912
02:05:41,550 --> 02:05:40,050
I think that's the danger I think the

2913
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:41,560
real important thing is to not get

2914
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:43,450
whether it's true or not true whether

2915
02:05:47,850 --> 02:05:46,210
you know there are there you know they

2916
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:47,860
need to kind of come out or not come out

2917
02:05:52,770 --> 02:05:50,890
I think it's it comes back to how can we

2918
02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:52,780
continue shifting this whole thing

2919
02:05:58,170 --> 02:05:55,330
forward and it starts with us and I mean

2920
02:06:00,330 --> 02:05:58,180
us as an I is in the individual person

2921
02:06:02,190 --> 02:06:00,340
and that's why I feel so important you

2922
02:06:03,870 --> 02:06:02,200
know the work that you're doing here you

2923
02:06:05,490 --> 02:06:03,880
know with with all of this with sharing

2924
02:06:06,930 --> 02:06:05,500
what you do through your creative

2925
02:06:08,430 --> 02:06:06,940
channels you know the work that I'm

2926
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:08,440
doing is a musician out there and

2927
02:06:12,540 --> 02:06:10,090
sharing it also through those creative

2928
02:06:15,540 --> 02:06:12,550
channels I think we have to all do our

2929
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:15,550
part right now more than ever to really

2930
02:06:19,950 --> 02:06:18,010
help keep that cohesive field moving

2931
02:06:21,570 --> 02:06:19,960
forward and keep us remembering that you

2932
02:06:22,890 --> 02:06:21,580
know we're all activists we have to be

2933
02:06:25,140 --> 02:06:22,900
activists at this point we have to

2934
02:06:27,060 --> 02:06:25,150
activate each other to continue to move

2935
02:06:29,490 --> 02:06:27,070
forward right now with with what this

2936
02:06:30,810 --> 02:06:29,500
transition and how to be a better

2937
02:06:32,790 --> 02:06:30,820
relative as I was saying you know it's

2938
02:06:34,650 --> 02:06:32,800
so important and that looks like a lot

2939
02:06:36,930 --> 02:06:34,660
of different things but it comes back to

2940
02:06:38,340 --> 02:06:36,940
first of all relation to self how are

2941
02:06:39,810 --> 02:06:38,350
you taking care of yourself are you

2942
02:06:41,970 --> 02:06:39,820
taking care of yourself how are you

2943
02:06:44,370 --> 02:06:41,980
taking care of your little piece of this

2944
02:06:46,260 --> 02:06:44,380
earth right whether that's just in your

2945
02:06:48,870 --> 02:06:46,270
you know your your relationship to your

2946
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:48,880
beloved or to your family you know what

2947
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:50,170
does that look like in your local

2948
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:52,330
community and then in that greater

2949
02:06:55,890 --> 02:06:53,770
community right and how we're able to

2950
02:06:57,660 --> 02:06:55,900
impact people through the web or in our

2951
02:06:59,550 --> 02:06:57,670
travels and I feel like there's all

2952
02:07:01,020 --> 02:06:59,560
these layers that those things really

2953
02:07:02,940 --> 02:07:01,030
have to start there because I feel so

2954
02:07:04,530 --> 02:07:02,950
many people just kind of get oh man I

2955
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:04,540
can't even deal with all this right

2956
02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:05,890
they're like hey I now you're gonna

2957
02:07:08,970 --> 02:07:07,690
throw that in there right you know and

2958
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:08,980
they're just like they just overwhelm

2959
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:10,570
mode and then you just get out pathetic

2960
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:12,490
you're just like whatever and just I'm

2961
02:07:15,180 --> 02:07:14,290
gonna go good the movie theatre and just

2962
02:07:19,590 --> 02:07:15,190
forget about it

2963
02:07:21,420 --> 02:07:19,600
and then we have there is the the

2964
02:07:22,770 --> 02:07:21,430
science side of things and you brought

2965
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:22,780
it up you brought up that you know the

2966
02:07:27,900 --> 02:07:25,330
quantum level of right things that are

2967
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:27,910
going on and science is pursuing this so

2968
02:07:34,980 --> 02:07:31,690
aggressively knowing that there is some

2969
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:34,990
of the answers for them for math and the

2970
02:07:38,930 --> 02:07:36,730
things that they're working on to make

2971
02:07:41,790 --> 02:07:38,940
the numbers work there has to be

2972
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:41,800
something parallel going on there has to

2973
02:07:46,410 --> 02:07:44,110
be extra dimensions any of string theory

2974
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:46,420
with ten dimensions and possibly eleven

2975
02:07:52,500 --> 02:07:49,690
it so they know about this and they are

2976
02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:52,510
aware of it then we have the paradox we

2977
02:08:00,410 --> 02:07:55,170
have the strain situation where

2978
02:08:03,970 --> 02:08:00,420
ayahuasca and and DMT has has been used

2979
02:08:07,399 --> 02:08:03,980
not only through ourselves internally

2980
02:08:12,279 --> 02:08:07,409
you know naturally created but through

2981
02:08:17,689 --> 02:08:12,289
ceremony for thousands of years going to

2982
02:08:20,330 --> 02:08:17,699
another world and where the experiences

2983
02:08:24,459 --> 02:08:20,340
of those that have gone through this all

2984
02:08:27,410 --> 02:08:24,469
over this planet all talk about the same

2985
02:08:29,149 --> 02:08:27,420
experiences the same place where they

2986
02:08:30,979 --> 02:08:29,159
have gone the same spirits that they

2987
02:08:34,279 --> 02:08:30,989
have talked to the same physical things

2988
02:08:37,279 --> 02:08:34,289
the same descriptions of where they go

2989
02:08:40,430 --> 02:08:37,289
to but science doesn't want to explore

2990
02:08:42,319 --> 02:08:40,440
this that there is a possibility here

2991
02:08:45,439 --> 02:08:42,329
and they won't take this into a

2992
02:08:48,709 --> 02:08:45,449
laboratory controlled setting to see if

2993
02:08:50,689 --> 02:08:48,719
if if that is exactly what is going on

2994
02:08:54,439 --> 02:08:50,699
that that this is a tool this is a

2995
02:08:58,040 --> 02:08:54,449
mechanism to an instrument if you will

2996
02:09:01,009 --> 02:08:58,050
to go and visit another world that

2997
02:09:03,140 --> 02:09:01,019
exists amongst our own why is that I I

2998
02:09:05,870 --> 02:09:03,150
don't understand why they they don't

2999
02:09:07,729 --> 02:09:05,880
even want to challenge it well I mean

3000
02:09:09,859 --> 02:09:07,739
the why I think is probably the easiest

3001
02:09:12,410 --> 02:09:09,869
question I you know I think I think to

3002
02:09:14,270 --> 02:09:12,420
answer in so much as I think there's a

3003
02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:14,280
lot of there's a lot of fear obviously

3004
02:09:17,899 --> 02:09:15,840
you know like all of the war on drugs

3005
02:09:19,310 --> 02:09:17,909
all of the fear that was generated out

3006
02:09:22,250 --> 02:09:19,320
of the you know kind of the response to

3007
02:09:24,589 --> 02:09:22,260
the 60s right and and Timothy very you

3008
02:09:25,339 --> 02:09:24,599
know all of that kind of reactionary

3009
02:09:26,569 --> 02:09:25,349
kind of knee-jerk

3010
02:09:28,759 --> 02:09:26,579
thing that we saw from the

3011
02:09:30,439 --> 02:09:28,769
administration's where they basically

3012
02:09:33,319 --> 02:09:30,449
you know classified all of these

3013
02:09:35,660 --> 02:09:33,329
incredible even therapeutic we clear

3014
02:09:37,399 --> 02:09:35,670
therapeutic beneficial medicines as all

3015
02:09:39,890 --> 02:09:37,409
these Schedule one schedule to drugs and

3016
02:09:41,959 --> 02:09:39,900
and so now you finally actually see for

3017
02:09:43,850 --> 02:09:41,969
the first time here in history we're

3018
02:09:46,220 --> 02:09:43,860
seeing that change and so right now as

3019
02:09:48,350 --> 02:09:46,230
we speak there is actually several

3020
02:09:49,939 --> 02:09:48,360
things that are happening you know maps

3021
02:09:52,339 --> 02:09:49,949
probably familiar with maps the

3022
02:09:54,649 --> 02:09:52,349
organization there they're working

3023
02:09:56,149 --> 02:09:54,659
actively right now and there are several

3024
02:09:58,129 --> 02:09:56,159
different clinical trials that are

3025
02:10:00,919 --> 02:09:58,139
coming online there it looks like um

3026
02:10:03,140 --> 02:10:00,929
basically psilocybin the block

3027
02:10:06,830 --> 02:10:03,150
potentially to be declassified as well

3028
02:10:08,450 --> 02:10:06,840
as MDMA for therapeutic use there's a

3029
02:10:10,190 --> 02:10:08,460
number of substances that

3030
02:10:12,170 --> 02:10:10,200
really important medicines ketamine's

3031
02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:12,180
already there which is you know very

3032
02:10:15,709 --> 02:10:13,410
interesting one it's already been used

3033
02:10:17,330 --> 02:10:15,719
in clinical settings with people right

3034
02:10:18,709 --> 02:10:17,340
now for ayahuasca of course you have to

3035
02:10:20,450 --> 02:10:18,719
do that outside of the United States for

3036
02:10:22,820 --> 02:10:20,460
ibogaine as well there's there's iboga

3037
02:10:25,459 --> 02:10:22,830
centers already just across the border

3038
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:25,469
Maggie Cole right mm-hmm and and they're

3039
02:10:29,630 --> 02:10:27,210
doing amazing work right treating all

3040
02:10:32,600 --> 02:10:29,640
kinds of things from from depression to

3041
02:10:34,370 --> 02:10:32,610
PTSD to chronic pain heroin addiction

3042
02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:34,380
yeah heroin addiction yeah you boga is

3043
02:10:38,690 --> 02:10:36,090
amazing for that right right ayahuasca

3044
02:10:41,510 --> 02:10:38,700
has various uses and of course ayahuasca

3045
02:10:43,820 --> 02:10:41,520
isn't just dimethyltryptamine DMT it has

3046
02:10:47,060 --> 02:10:43,830
a load of other alkaloids that are also

3047
02:10:48,590 --> 02:10:47,070
super healing and so it's it's really an

3048
02:10:49,910 --> 02:10:48,600
interesting time to actually watch all

3049
02:10:52,220 --> 02:10:49,920
this and to be a part of this movement

3050
02:10:54,380 --> 02:10:52,230
and so there's a whole thing happening I

3051
02:10:57,050 --> 02:10:54,390
should have a dear friend of mine uh Dan

3052
02:10:58,850 --> 02:10:57,060
angle dr. Dan angle if anyone wants to

3053
02:11:00,080 --> 02:10:58,860
look him up I really recommend it he's

3054
02:11:02,720 --> 02:11:00,090
got a nuke that he's got a clinic that

3055
02:11:04,970 --> 02:11:02,730
they have a neuro neurobiology clinic in

3056
02:11:06,260 --> 02:11:04,980
Boulder Colorado and he's opening

3057
02:11:07,610 --> 02:11:06,270
another one Austin there's gonna be a

3058
02:11:10,040 --> 02:11:07,620
whole bunch of these clinics opening

3059
02:11:11,660 --> 02:11:10,050
that the main thing they treat is

3060
02:11:13,340 --> 02:11:11,670
traumatic brain injury right so they

3061
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:13,350
work with like athletes or people been a

3062
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:15,570
major accidents but they're taking them

3063
02:11:19,220 --> 02:11:16,770
using all of this cutting-edge

3064
02:11:20,990 --> 02:11:19,230
technology including using ketamine

3065
02:11:23,060 --> 02:11:21,000
right now legally they have ketamine

3066
02:11:24,709 --> 02:11:23,070
sessions happening where they take them

3067
02:11:27,590 --> 02:11:24,719
in to even float tanks and different

3068
02:11:30,170 --> 02:11:27,600
types of hyperbaric chambers and using

3069
02:11:31,700 --> 02:11:30,180
even stem cells it's amazing man this

3070
02:11:33,830 --> 02:11:31,710
cutting edge and seeing the brain

3071
02:11:35,690 --> 02:11:33,840
basically turn back on and it's just

3072
02:11:38,270 --> 02:11:35,700
mind-boggling what they're doing and

3073
02:11:41,420 --> 02:11:38,280
helping people heal and restore and

3074
02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:41,430
rebuild new neural pathways and it's all

3075
02:11:45,290 --> 02:11:43,170
being done under you know full-on

3076
02:11:47,930 --> 02:11:45,300
clinical supervision with rigorous

3077
02:11:49,729 --> 02:11:47,940
science around it and so it's shifting I

3078
02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:49,739
mean the the fear of like the science

3079
02:11:53,209 --> 02:11:51,330
the old model of science that's like

3080
02:11:55,430 --> 02:11:53,219
kind of scared and has been funded and

3081
02:11:56,930 --> 02:11:55,440
you know dependent on government grants

3082
02:11:59,000 --> 02:11:56,940
that's all shifting right now there's a

3083
02:12:01,070 --> 02:11:59,010
big pivot happening and moving into the

3084
02:12:02,630 --> 02:12:01,080
private sector and a lot of people

3085
02:12:04,070 --> 02:12:02,640
especially with all of the push I think

3086
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:04,080
that's also coming out of Silicon Valley

3087
02:12:09,350 --> 02:12:06,690
and a lot of people in kind of the tech

3088
02:12:10,580 --> 02:12:09,360
arenas who get you know in maybe Burning

3089
02:12:12,470 --> 02:12:10,590
Man is part of this you know has

3090
02:12:14,450 --> 02:12:12,480
instigated this kind of like threshold

3091
02:12:16,459 --> 02:12:14,460
where I see you know you you know

3092
02:12:18,620 --> 02:12:16,469
there's a movement happening where a lot

3093
02:12:20,750 --> 02:12:18,630
of really brilliant minds they get that

3094
02:12:22,570 --> 02:12:20,760
hey there's something here we can't keep

3095
02:12:25,090 --> 02:12:22,580
ignoring this

3096
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:25,100
that is awakening us and and it's

3097
02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:26,570
helping its you know people with micro

3098
02:12:31,570 --> 02:12:29,210
dosing with el LSD or you know things of

3099
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:31,580
that nature and or silicide for instance

3100
02:12:36,010 --> 02:12:34,010
and finding that take more creative the

3101
02:12:37,690 --> 02:12:36,020
more productive the most focus they're

3102
02:12:39,430 --> 02:12:37,700
able to solve problems they couldn't

3103
02:12:40,870 --> 02:12:39,440
solve otherwise you know because they're

3104
02:12:43,090 --> 02:12:40,880
actually activating more of their brain

3105
02:12:47,020 --> 02:12:43,100
and then we have but then we have the

3106
02:12:49,420 --> 02:12:47,030
problem of ayahuasca and DMT getting a

3107
02:12:52,180 --> 02:12:49,430
bad name because you've got these you

3108
02:12:55,690 --> 02:12:52,190
know groups of people going down to Peru

3109
02:12:57,370 --> 02:12:55,700
and Ecuador to go party well you know

3110
02:12:59,380 --> 02:12:57,380
that's that's that's the the

3111
02:13:01,300 --> 02:12:59,390
double-edged sword of capitalism right

3112
02:13:03,820 --> 02:13:01,310
right it's a it's so twisted

3113
02:13:05,830 --> 02:13:03,830
so yeah now because of their being more

3114
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:05,840
kind of Commons it's entering the

3115
02:13:09,550 --> 02:13:08,090
mainstream and like everything in the

3116
02:13:12,070 --> 02:13:09,560
Ender's the mainstream I mean look at it

3117
02:13:14,470 --> 02:13:12,080
with great examples yoga right so here

3118
02:13:16,090 --> 02:13:14,480
you have this forum that is ancient that

3119
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:16,100
has been cultivated and is basically

3120
02:13:21,010 --> 02:13:18,890
just one little sliver of a massive

3121
02:13:22,870 --> 02:13:21,020
spiritual tradition that's all geared to

3122
02:13:25,930 --> 02:13:22,880
reaching enlightenment and what do we do

3123
02:13:27,700 --> 02:13:25,940
we commodify we sell you yoga mats and

3124
02:13:30,250 --> 02:13:27,710
you know the latest in yoga clothes

3125
02:13:33,250 --> 02:13:30,260
right and and you know the yoga music to

3126
02:13:35,890 --> 02:13:33,260
go with it and it's like let me like put

3127
02:13:37,600 --> 02:13:35,900
put all of this consumer branding and

3128
02:13:39,460 --> 02:13:37,610
you know capital is basically modeled

3129
02:13:42,490 --> 02:13:39,470
right onto this thing and totally

3130
02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:42,500
alienate this beautiful form of reaching

3131
02:13:45,820 --> 02:13:43,610
alignment and turn it into a just

3132
02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:45,830
another form of consumption and so of

3133
02:13:50,320 --> 02:13:48,290
course with ayahuasca and and what we've

3134
02:13:52,450 --> 02:13:50,330
seen in these harmonic traditions is

3135
02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:52,460
that's also happened now the words got

3136
02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:54,770
now and I mean you know I've scored the

3137
02:13:58,630 --> 02:13:56,570
soundtrack to a documentary film that

3138
02:14:00,790 --> 02:13:58,640
definitely reached a lot of people that

3139
02:14:02,410 --> 02:14:00,800
then went down to Peru as a result of

3140
02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:02,420
that and so I definitely had a

3141
02:14:06,220 --> 02:14:04,250
conversation with mother ayahuasca you

3142
02:14:07,780 --> 02:14:06,230
know and I call her mama like she's like

3143
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:07,790
a grandmother because she's a

3144
02:14:12,760 --> 02:14:10,010
consciousness she's a she's a spirit of

3145
02:14:14,140 --> 02:14:12,770
being depending on how you want to look

3146
02:14:14,980 --> 02:14:14,150
at that and like I was saying before it

3147
02:14:17,500 --> 02:14:14,990
you could talk about it in different

3148
02:14:20,710 --> 02:14:17,510
ways but to put it simply you know it

3149
02:14:22,660 --> 02:14:20,720
she wants to be known she's like what

3150
02:14:24,280 --> 02:14:22,670
she told me in my work with her and over

3151
02:14:27,310 --> 02:14:24,290
the years and this is since I was young

3152
02:14:29,710 --> 02:14:27,320
she said you know this is time right now

3153
02:14:31,630 --> 02:14:29,720
like the whole all of the plants all of

3154
02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:31,640
the other species on the planet they

3155
02:14:34,300 --> 02:14:32,570
have an awareness they have a

3156
02:14:35,650 --> 02:14:34,310
consciousness that's not that they're is

3157
02:14:36,100 --> 02:14:35,660
just humans and everything else is like

3158
02:14:38,590 --> 02:14:36,110
you

3159
02:14:40,450 --> 02:14:38,600
just stuff for us to extract and exploit

3160
02:14:42,820 --> 02:14:40,460
everything has an awareness and it's

3161
02:14:45,160 --> 02:14:42,830
everyone is hip to what the humans are

3162
02:14:45,940 --> 02:14:45,170
doing right now and everyone's like we

3163
02:14:49,210 --> 02:14:45,950
got to do something

3164
02:14:51,850 --> 02:14:49,220
and so those master out light plants and

3165
02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:51,860
teachers are saying hey it's time for us

3166
02:14:56,230 --> 02:14:53,690
to kind of really come back and help to

3167
02:14:58,210 --> 02:14:56,240
activate and help the human beings who

3168
02:14:59,680 --> 02:14:58,220
are the stewards of this earth and have

3169
02:15:03,040 --> 02:14:59,690
the birthright as I said earlier with

3170
02:15:04,810 --> 02:15:03,050
fire to master and to honor their role

3171
02:15:08,290 --> 02:15:04,820
as the fire keepers right now more than

3172
02:15:09,790 --> 02:15:08,300
ever because we'll see but see that's

3173
02:15:13,270 --> 02:15:09,800
what's most important here there's a

3174
02:15:14,410 --> 02:15:13,280
ceremony in a tradition yet is there for

3175
02:15:17,080 --> 02:15:14,420
a reason

3176
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:17,090
you can't just go down to Peru and and

3177
02:15:22,210 --> 02:15:19,610
say you know go and sign up for this and

3178
02:15:23,980 --> 02:15:22,220
and start the ceremony and go okay man

3179
02:15:26,440 --> 02:15:23,990
when are we gonna start drinking dude

3180
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:26,450
it's not about that right you know that

3181
02:15:33,220 --> 02:15:29,990
and it's also a danger zone you know you

3182
02:15:39,160 --> 02:15:33,230
need to yeah you need to respect what

3183
02:15:41,380 --> 02:15:39,170
you are doing and by the way and not to

3184
02:15:45,130 --> 02:15:41,390
cut you off which I just did so rudely

3185
02:15:49,330 --> 02:15:45,140
but are you a musical shaman I mean do

3186
02:15:51,610 --> 02:15:49,340
you do you look at yourself that way you

3187
02:15:53,230 --> 02:15:51,620
know I some people have called me that

3188
02:15:55,240 --> 02:15:53,240
you know I don't I don't like the word

3189
02:15:56,950 --> 02:15:55,250
shaman just because I feel like it's a

3190
02:15:59,170 --> 02:15:56,960
it's kind of another one of those

3191
02:16:01,150 --> 02:15:59,180
appropriated like words that kind of has

3192
02:16:02,950 --> 02:16:01,160
just become the catch-all phrase for

3193
02:16:04,630 --> 02:16:02,960
anyone who works and in the spiritual

3194
02:16:06,100 --> 02:16:04,640
realm but that's right you know what I

3195
02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:06,110
mean in kind of it's just like I was

3196
02:16:09,910 --> 02:16:08,450
like it's almost become cliche so I kind

3197
02:16:12,970 --> 02:16:09,920
of say you know the shamanic ins you're

3198
02:16:14,680 --> 02:16:12,980
doing this shenanigans the shamans for

3199
02:16:16,480 --> 02:16:14,690
me though man it's it you know it's it's

3200
02:16:18,190 --> 02:16:16,490
just about connecting the spirit and

3201
02:16:21,190 --> 02:16:18,200
doing that in in the most authentic way

3202
02:16:22,930 --> 02:16:21,200
with this little [\h__\h] and ego as

3203
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:22,940
possible and that's why I say for me

3204
02:16:26,350 --> 02:16:24,650
it's about getting out of the way and so

3205
02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:26,360
I'm not making that music you know

3206
02:16:29,260 --> 02:16:27,890
people say oh man you're so great all

3207
02:16:31,570 --> 02:16:29,270
you just so brilliant it's like well

3208
02:16:34,150 --> 02:16:31,580
thank you but you know that's not me is

3209
02:16:35,980 --> 02:16:34,160
like if it were just me it wouldn't be

3210
02:16:37,390 --> 02:16:35,990
so great it's actually not me it's like

3211
02:16:39,610 --> 02:16:37,400
that's coming from spirit that is

3212
02:16:41,320 --> 02:16:39,620
inspired from spirit and and I don't

3213
02:16:43,300 --> 02:16:41,330
claim it you know I didn't write these

3214
02:16:45,610 --> 02:16:43,310
songs I didn't meet court like I'm there

3215
02:16:47,650 --> 02:16:45,620
yeah my body's there but I'm acting in

3216
02:16:49,720 --> 02:16:47,660
service and that's really the key for me

3217
02:16:52,090 --> 02:16:49,730
and I feel that's the piece too

3218
02:16:53,860 --> 02:16:52,100
the ayahuasca rose and the vitaliy stars

3219
02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:53,870
when we talk about them the the vegetal

3220
02:16:59,200 --> 02:16:55,810
list which basically means the the plant

3221
02:17:00,970 --> 02:16:59,210
medicine men or medicine women they are

3222
02:17:02,730 --> 02:17:00,980
working with these plants you know the

3223
02:17:04,780 --> 02:17:02,740
real ones okay there's plenty of

3224
02:17:06,190 --> 02:17:04,790
shenanigans going on now now because

3225
02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:06,200
it's an industry now it's become a

3226
02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:08,690
tourism thing now you go down you get

3227
02:17:12,490 --> 02:17:10,370
off the plane and you keep those or the

3228
02:17:14,170 --> 02:17:12,500
boat rather or the plane and man you got

3229
02:17:15,730 --> 02:17:14,180
everybody hey I watch guy Wescoe

3230
02:17:16,090 --> 02:17:15,740
whatever shaman you know this that and

3231
02:17:18,690 --> 02:17:16,100
the other

3232
02:17:20,650 --> 02:17:18,700
Campbell you name it whatever you want

3233
02:17:22,270 --> 02:17:20,660
stuff that's not even from there is

3234
02:17:24,970 --> 02:17:22,280
being offered and it's it's really

3235
02:17:26,290 --> 02:17:24,980
dangerous because it's become the money

3236
02:17:27,910 --> 02:17:26,300
has gotten involved right and like

3237
02:17:30,130 --> 02:17:27,920
anything once the money enters the

3238
02:17:32,290 --> 02:17:30,140
equation it starts to distort things

3239
02:17:36,190 --> 02:17:32,300
right it starts to kind of to corrupt it

3240
02:17:38,950 --> 02:17:36,200
and and Alaska herself that teacher that

3241
02:17:40,570 --> 02:17:38,960
master she's not the corrupted one right

3242
02:17:42,490 --> 02:17:40,580
it's like she's still gonna work with

3243
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:42,500
you in a good way but this is the danger

3244
02:17:47,620 --> 02:17:45,200
people don't get it's like doing psychic

3245
02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:47,630
surgery you're not gonna hand a scalpel

3246
02:17:51,580 --> 02:17:49,730
to some doc that you just met off the

3247
02:17:53,440 --> 02:17:51,590
street right right and be like hey man

3248
02:17:54,790 --> 02:17:53,450
you work on my brain here and just help

3249
02:17:57,040 --> 02:17:54,800
me like you know fix a little bit of

3250
02:17:59,050 --> 02:17:57,050
depression no freakin way right you

3251
02:18:00,520 --> 02:17:59,060
would go find out get references like

3252
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:00,530
you're gonna know who you're dealing

3253
02:18:04,660 --> 02:18:01,850
with and it's the same with ayahuasca

3254
02:18:06,340 --> 02:18:04,670
you're opening up your psychic portal

3255
02:18:09,070 --> 02:18:06,350
you're basically in opt in the operating

3256
02:18:11,050 --> 02:18:09,080
room and now you're saying okay I'm wide

3257
02:18:12,550 --> 02:18:11,060
open now when you're wide open man like

3258
02:18:13,870 --> 02:18:12,560
I was saying earlier with the ceremonies

3259
02:18:15,490 --> 02:18:13,880
that I grew up and even just with the

3260
02:18:17,560 --> 02:18:15,500
drumming when we go into trance states

3261
02:18:20,290 --> 02:18:17,570
with just the music let alone when we

3262
02:18:22,030 --> 02:18:20,300
add the layer of these master plans you

3263
02:18:23,650 --> 02:18:22,040
are opening yourself up to anything and

3264
02:18:25,330 --> 02:18:23,660
so it's very dangerous people don't even

3265
02:18:27,850 --> 02:18:25,340
understand the level of danger that's

3266
02:18:29,860 --> 02:18:27,860
there from entities coming in from other

3267
02:18:31,990 --> 02:18:29,870
beings from attacks psychic attacks I

3268
02:18:33,880 --> 02:18:32,000
mean it is a full-on war when you're

3269
02:18:35,500 --> 02:18:33,890
when you're hip to this this might freak

3270
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:35,510
people out out there so sorry listeners

3271
02:18:39,790 --> 02:18:37,760
but you got to understand there's a

3272
02:18:41,650 --> 02:18:39,800
whole other dimension that is there's

3273
02:18:43,870 --> 02:18:41,660
full-on battles happening between

3274
02:18:45,340 --> 02:18:43,880
various shamans and I'm using shamans

3275
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:45,350
here just because that's people can

3276
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:47,210
understand that term but people who work

3277
02:18:51,310 --> 02:18:49,010
in this dimensions and know how to

3278
02:18:52,540 --> 02:18:51,320
navigate them to different degrees yes

3279
02:18:54,190 --> 02:18:52,550
there are people who know how to

3280
02:18:57,760 --> 02:18:54,200
actually move through these spaces and

3281
02:19:00,610 --> 02:18:57,770
said to you what before you know they

3282
02:19:01,930 --> 02:19:00,620
they are steering you mentally into a

3283
02:19:05,831 --> 02:19:01,940
direction and they are

3284
02:19:07,960 --> 02:19:05,841
in full control absolutely s and and you

3285
02:19:09,550 --> 02:19:07,970
know and sometimes you literally have

3286
02:19:11,200 --> 02:19:09,560
your own protection and guides that you

3287
02:19:12,700 --> 02:19:11,210
don't even know that are with you right

3288
02:19:14,140 --> 02:19:12,710
protection right right there but

3289
02:19:16,450 --> 02:19:14,150
actually there there there's allies as

3290
02:19:18,850 --> 02:19:16,460
well it's not all dark but there's a lot

3291
02:19:20,440 --> 02:19:18,860
of dark unfortunate because why dark is

3292
02:19:22,420 --> 02:19:20,450
attracted the light in the dark are

3293
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:22,430
always working right in this dance and

3294
02:19:27,430 --> 02:19:25,010
so it's the same in this this applies as

3295
02:19:29,920 --> 02:19:27,440
above so below as without so within and

3296
02:19:31,030 --> 02:19:29,930
so you have this happening so you really

3297
02:19:33,340 --> 02:19:31,040
it's very dangerous

3298
02:19:35,081 --> 02:19:33,350
it's it I can't like I can't overstate

3299
02:19:36,610 --> 02:19:35,091
this and so people don't get it's like

3300
02:19:38,680 --> 02:19:36,620
you have to know who you're sitting with

3301
02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:38,690
you have to know who is holding the

3302
02:19:42,161 --> 02:19:40,370
space who's your Road man or Road woman

3303
02:19:44,710 --> 02:19:42,171
and and it doesn't matter what it is I

3304
02:19:46,510 --> 02:19:44,720
would even extend that analogy to music

3305
02:19:47,800 --> 02:19:46,520
you know when you're going out to a

3306
02:19:49,810 --> 02:19:47,810
concert or you're going out to a club

3307
02:19:52,570 --> 02:19:49,820
and you're you're getting shit-faced

3308
02:19:54,520 --> 02:19:52,580
you've got an oh man like if you're

3309
02:19:56,171 --> 02:19:54,530
listening whoever is up there guiding

3310
02:19:58,240 --> 02:19:56,181
the ceremony because I hate to say it

3311
02:20:01,001 --> 02:19:58,250
but it is a ceremony it really is

3312
02:20:03,070 --> 02:20:01,011
music the performance it goes all back

3313
02:20:04,871 --> 02:20:03,080
to the original fire when we were

3314
02:20:06,700 --> 02:20:04,881
sitting there with Grandma and Grandpa

3315
02:20:08,110 --> 02:20:06,710
and the medicine man of your village

3316
02:20:10,001 --> 02:20:08,120
right whether they were druids

3317
02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:10,011
or whether they were in Africa or

3318
02:20:12,850 --> 02:20:11,450
whether they were in South America or

3319
02:20:15,371 --> 02:20:12,860
they were the Aboriginal people and

3320
02:20:17,261 --> 02:20:15,381
they're moving energy and you go into

3321
02:20:18,820 --> 02:20:17,271
that trance state and you're in an

3322
02:20:21,251 --> 02:20:18,830
altered state whether that's with

3323
02:20:22,301 --> 02:20:21,261
alcohol tobacco which is a master plant

3324
02:20:24,251 --> 02:20:22,311
by the way that's been totally

3325
02:20:25,780 --> 02:20:24,261
misunderstood you know ganja which is

3326
02:20:28,301 --> 02:20:25,790
another master plant some of the money

3327
02:20:30,730 --> 02:20:28,311
of marijuana pot you know all of these

3328
02:20:33,911 --> 02:20:30,740
are our teachers and they're opening our

3329
02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:33,921
you know perception which we know

3330
02:20:37,570 --> 02:20:35,570
nine-tenths of reality is the way in

3331
02:20:39,850 --> 02:20:37,580
which we perceive it that science has

3332
02:20:41,291 --> 02:20:39,860
told us that so if you understand that

3333
02:20:43,570 --> 02:20:41,301
you're altering your perception you're

3334
02:20:45,520 --> 02:20:43,580
altering reality you're opening up doors

3335
02:20:47,530 --> 02:20:45,530
and portals you're actually impacting

3336
02:20:50,140 --> 02:20:47,540
change so going back to that very first

3337
02:20:52,001 --> 02:20:50,150
question you know that you asked me is

3338
02:20:54,730 --> 02:20:52,011
are you different afterwards

3339
02:20:56,921 --> 02:20:54,740
mmm-hmm yes absolutely you know it's

3340
02:20:59,230 --> 02:20:56,931
like juice each one of my my ceremonies

3341
02:21:01,060 --> 02:20:59,240
has informed who I am right now it's

3342
02:21:02,770 --> 02:21:01,070
like I never the same man never walks

3343
02:21:05,831 --> 02:21:02,780
into the same river that's right that's

3344
02:21:08,711 --> 02:21:05,841
right and it reminds did you see the the

3345
02:21:12,011 --> 02:21:08,721
documentary with Michelle Rodriguez I

3346
02:21:13,961 --> 02:21:12,021
don't know that I have okay I can't

3347
02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:13,971
remember I was hoping you'd remember say

3348
02:21:17,019 --> 02:21:15,290
it'll pop up time

3349
02:21:21,460 --> 02:21:17,029
well we got to do is talk about it but

3350
02:21:27,730 --> 02:21:21,470
anyway it's about her going down to Peru

3351
02:21:30,099 --> 02:21:27,740
and going through all of the steps all

3352
02:21:32,050 --> 02:21:30,109
of the pre-ceremony the knowledge of

3353
02:21:34,929 --> 02:21:32,060
what she was doing and then going up

3354
02:21:37,990 --> 02:21:34,939
into the mountains go full-on every

3355
02:21:39,610 --> 02:21:38,000
every day every step every finally you

3356
02:21:42,730 --> 02:21:39,620
know going through the ceremony up on

3357
02:21:44,740 --> 02:21:42,740
this cliff and she goes she does the

3358
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:44,750
whole thing but the point is we all know

3359
02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:48,170
Michelle Rodriguez right and I don't use

3360
02:21:53,230 --> 02:21:50,210
foul language on this show but Michelle

3361
02:21:58,120 --> 02:21:53,240
Rodriguez is pretty badass and we have a

3362
02:22:00,040 --> 02:21:58,130
we have a perception of her of of what

3363
02:22:01,870 --> 02:22:00,050
she has done in her career and and her

3364
02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:01,880
personality right she's pretty cool it's

3365
02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:03,770
pretty rugged she goes through the

3366
02:22:10,500 --> 02:22:06,250
ceremony and the Michelle Rodriguez

3367
02:22:12,730 --> 02:22:10,510
afterwards I don't I'm not even so sure

3368
02:22:15,700 --> 02:22:12,740
that she wanted to come back to

3369
02:22:17,650 --> 02:22:15,710
civilization I'm not so sure if she was

3370
02:22:22,809 --> 02:22:17,660
too hip about Hollywood after that if

3371
02:22:27,910 --> 02:22:22,819
you know what I mean I do and how is

3372
02:22:29,410 --> 02:22:27,920
that for you to come back and to take a

3373
02:22:31,269 --> 02:22:29,420
look around because you just learned

3374
02:22:35,620 --> 02:22:31,279
something about yourself you've just had

3375
02:22:37,510 --> 02:22:35,630
your epiphanies right yeah you've asked

3376
02:22:39,490 --> 02:22:37,520
your questions and you've gotten your

3377
02:22:41,469 --> 02:22:39,500
answers that's all part of the ceremony

3378
02:22:43,960 --> 02:22:41,479
and then you come back here and you

3379
02:22:46,690 --> 02:22:43,970
drive past a McDonald's right or more or

3380
02:22:47,080 --> 02:22:46,700
more questions yes it that's exactly the

3381
02:22:51,219 --> 02:22:47,090
point

3382
02:22:53,650 --> 02:22:51,229
and any drive past Walmart you know what

3383
02:22:55,660 --> 02:22:53,660
right how does that change you I mean do

3384
02:22:59,860 --> 02:22:55,670
you well you can't you can't shut down

3385
02:23:03,580 --> 02:22:59,870
Walmart right or can you well I'll tell

3386
02:23:05,769 --> 02:23:03,590
you you know for me what what I've been

3387
02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:05,779
shown by by the master teachers you know

3388
02:23:09,400 --> 02:23:08,090
and by these these these are teachers

3389
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:09,410
you know all of these different plants

3390
02:23:14,889 --> 02:23:12,770
and you know I is just one you know

3391
02:23:18,160 --> 02:23:14,899
actually multiple but it's it's one head

3392
02:23:20,200 --> 02:23:18,170
one main teacher there and it shows up

3393
02:23:21,700 --> 02:23:20,210
in various forms and shape shifts but

3394
02:23:24,460 --> 02:23:21,710
some would say she's connected to the

3395
02:23:26,050 --> 02:23:24,470
anaconda which is the ancient serpents

3396
02:23:27,400 --> 02:23:26,060
that live in the deep jungle you know

3397
02:23:29,140 --> 02:23:27,410
these snakes are very old

3398
02:23:31,480 --> 02:23:29,150
you could even connect them to the myths

3399
02:23:33,310 --> 02:23:31,490
Dragons you know these are all beings

3400
02:23:35,980 --> 02:23:33,320
old earth beings and not in this like

3401
02:23:37,751 --> 02:23:35,990
scary like oh man evil serpent like kind

3402
02:23:40,091 --> 02:23:37,761
of you know the the devil kind of

3403
02:23:42,730 --> 02:23:40,101
Christian Judeo Christian Way but more

3404
02:23:44,680 --> 02:23:42,740
of like the serpent as the keeper of

3405
02:23:47,200 --> 02:23:44,690
knowledge and of health and of eternal

3406
02:23:48,850 --> 02:23:47,210
life and all of that wisdom that is the

3407
02:23:51,881 --> 02:23:48,860
mystical knowledge that has been largely

3408
02:23:53,740 --> 02:23:51,891
lost and so she communicates to us and

3409
02:23:55,660 --> 02:23:53,750
one of the things that she has helped me

3410
02:23:57,100 --> 02:23:55,670
to see and remember about myself and

3411
02:23:59,501 --> 02:23:57,110
that's the biggest thing is helping you

3412
02:24:01,171 --> 02:23:59,511
remember these these these doors to

3413
02:24:03,730 --> 02:24:01,181
perception they help us to remember

3414
02:24:05,921 --> 02:24:03,740
information that's been encoded and in

3415
02:24:07,450 --> 02:24:05,931
our very DNA it's in our body but our

3416
02:24:09,430 --> 02:24:07,460
minds forget because we're forgetful

3417
02:24:11,171 --> 02:24:09,440
beings and of course now we use our

3418
02:24:13,301 --> 02:24:11,181
cybernetic technology of like our

3419
02:24:14,470 --> 02:24:13,311
iPhones or whatever you know to extend

3420
02:24:16,660 --> 02:24:14,480
our ability and that's just going to

3421
02:24:19,030 --> 02:24:16,670
increase as the bandwidth gets widened

3422
02:24:22,121 --> 02:24:19,040
from our thumbs to main line into an AI

3423
02:24:25,060 --> 02:24:22,131
framework but it's still this thing we

3424
02:24:27,430 --> 02:24:25,070
forget of why we really came here what

3425
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:27,440
are we here to do be better relative

3426
02:24:31,961 --> 02:24:29,690
what does that look like so for me she

3427
02:24:33,850 --> 02:24:31,971
showed me you're a shocker una what is a

3428
02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:33,860
Chicana that's a Quechua word and it

3429
02:24:39,160 --> 02:24:36,170
means Shaka means bridger Harouna means

3430
02:24:40,900 --> 02:24:39,170
people so bridge person or bridge people

3431
02:24:42,791 --> 02:24:40,910
so what does that mean I'm a world

3432
02:24:44,320 --> 02:24:42,801
Bridger and that's part of my medicine

3433
02:24:46,450 --> 02:24:44,330
that I bring to the world so what do I

3434
02:24:48,520 --> 02:24:46,460
do through music which is a powerful

3435
02:24:50,650 --> 02:24:48,530
medium of vibrational technology is

3436
02:24:52,690 --> 02:24:50,660
helping to bridge the worlds i bridge

3437
02:24:55,060 --> 02:24:52,700
that world of that ceremony there a lot

3438
02:24:56,530 --> 02:24:55,070
of people can't go to or don't even

3439
02:24:58,751 --> 02:24:56,540
understand how to start to even approach

3440
02:25:01,150 --> 02:24:58,761
and I bridge it into the moment they're

3441
02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:01,160
in a festival in a club you know on the

3442
02:25:05,650 --> 02:25:03,530
stage or in a retreat or in a session

3443
02:25:07,570 --> 02:25:05,660
when I do my healing work I'm there to

3444
02:25:10,390 --> 02:25:07,580
basically help that person connect to it

3445
02:25:12,671 --> 02:25:10,400
in and shape-shift and bridge them to

3446
02:25:15,400 --> 02:25:12,681
that world so that they can remember why

3447
02:25:16,810 --> 02:25:15,410
they came here and in doing that and of

3448
02:25:18,520 --> 02:25:16,820
course one on one session I only reach

3449
02:25:20,591 --> 02:25:18,530
one person I can go really deep with

3450
02:25:22,421 --> 02:25:20,601
many people on a stage I can reach many

3451
02:25:24,100 --> 02:25:22,431
people and that's kind of the thing how

3452
02:25:25,810 --> 02:25:24,110
do i amplify this because at the time

3453
02:25:27,430 --> 02:25:25,820
we're in we have to accelerate this

3454
02:25:29,410 --> 02:25:27,440
we're running out of time right we have

3455
02:25:30,820 --> 02:25:29,420
to cut to commercial real quick and so

3456
02:25:33,700 --> 02:25:30,830
this is happening right now in our lives

3457
02:25:35,980 --> 02:25:33,710
it's like how do we get this and the way

3458
02:25:36,970 --> 02:25:35,990
that we do it is is a bandwidth problem

3459
02:25:41,140 --> 02:25:36,980
just like I was talking about the AI

3460
02:25:42,610 --> 02:25:41,150
it's sound sound and vibration can tell

3461
02:25:44,770 --> 02:25:42,620
so much more in a

3462
02:25:46,030 --> 02:25:44,780
moment the emotion the feeling that I

3463
02:25:47,380 --> 02:25:46,040
can communicate that the sound is so

3464
02:25:49,480 --> 02:25:47,390
much more powerful than all the words I

3465
02:25:51,630 --> 02:25:49,490
could ever say and that's really where

3466
02:25:55,480 --> 02:25:51,640
it comes down to and what at what point

3467
02:25:58,900 --> 02:25:55,490
we've got two minutes point at what

3468
02:26:01,930 --> 02:25:58,910
point does somebody know that they are

3469
02:26:05,320 --> 02:26:01,940
ready for the ceremony because it is

3470
02:26:07,450 --> 02:26:05,330
it's a true commitment I mean something

3471
02:26:09,190 --> 02:26:07,460
that is about as serious as anything

3472
02:26:11,830 --> 02:26:09,200
that you will do in your life may be the

3473
02:26:15,190 --> 02:26:11,840
most serious but at what point does

3474
02:26:17,650 --> 02:26:15,200
somebody know that they are ready that's

3475
02:26:19,390 --> 02:26:17,660
a great question I think that's truly

3476
02:26:22,240 --> 02:26:19,400
the question that we each have to ask

3477
02:26:23,560 --> 02:26:22,250
ourselves am I ready and you more than

3478
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:23,570
likely you're gonna say you're not I

3479
02:26:32,430 --> 02:26:28,010
mean I've had my I've had my

3480
02:26:35,560 --> 02:26:32,440
opportunities I've had the offers and

3481
02:26:37,210 --> 02:26:35,570
I'm not let me give you a quick analogy

3482
02:26:38,650 --> 02:26:37,220
so I like to look at the story of the

3483
02:26:40,870 --> 02:26:38,660
Buffalo I don't know if you've ever

3484
02:26:42,790 --> 02:26:40,880
heard this so one of my elders he once

3485
02:26:44,860 --> 02:26:42,800
told me this Lakota elder he says you

3486
02:26:47,380 --> 02:26:44,870
know the Buffalo they had all they're

3487
02:26:48,910 --> 02:26:47,390
very wise beings the herd of buffalo

3488
02:26:50,560 --> 02:26:48,920
when they used to roam and their massive

3489
02:26:53,170 --> 02:26:50,570
herds across the plains of the Americas

3490
02:26:55,690 --> 02:26:53,180
they would always they see a storm

3491
02:26:57,790 --> 02:26:55,700
coming on the horizon they knew the

3492
02:26:59,890 --> 02:26:57,800
intelligence of the herd was not to run

3493
02:27:01,810 --> 02:26:59,900
away from the storm it was to go into

3494
02:27:03,700 --> 02:27:01,820
the heart of the storm and they would

3495
02:27:05,470 --> 02:27:03,710
actually do that because they knew if

3496
02:27:08,200 --> 02:27:05,480
they could go into the fear into the

3497
02:27:09,940 --> 02:27:08,210
thing that was so ominous and scary they

3498
02:27:11,710 --> 02:27:09,950
would be the quickest way through if

3499
02:27:12,790 --> 02:27:11,720
they turned around and ran away it would

3500
02:27:14,591 --> 02:27:12,800
chase them and they would be in the

3501
02:27:16,841 --> 02:27:14,601
storm much much longer and suffer way

3502
02:27:18,730 --> 02:27:16,851
more and so I loved that story and then

3503
02:27:20,530 --> 02:27:18,740
remember the buffalos because whatever

3504
02:27:22,301 --> 02:27:20,540
that fear is for you that comes up for

3505
02:27:24,040 --> 02:27:22,311
you and all everything comes up on the

3506
02:27:26,140 --> 02:27:24,050
way to ceremony by the way so just know

3507
02:27:27,730 --> 02:27:26,150
that is that you go through it and if

3508
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:27,740
you can grab that courage whatever

3509
02:27:31,780 --> 02:27:29,930
inkling of courage you've got take that

3510
02:27:33,160 --> 02:27:31,790
with you with heart and use your heart

3511
02:27:35,710 --> 02:27:33,170
this isn't the mind what about the heart

3512
02:27:37,420 --> 02:27:35,720
and go into the fear and I promise you

3513
02:27:39,130 --> 02:27:37,430
that's where the medicine is for you and

3514
02:27:40,960 --> 02:27:39,140
it may not be the ceremony may look like

3515
02:27:44,320 --> 02:27:40,970
something else but that is the ceremony

3516
02:27:47,560 --> 02:27:44,330
of life the the documentary I was

3517
02:27:52,420 --> 02:27:47,570
talking about is called the reality of

3518
02:27:55,120 --> 02:27:52,430
truth Oba in 2016 everybody's in it

3519
02:27:55,850 --> 02:27:55,130
Deepak Chopra's in it Peter Coyote is

3520
02:28:01,761 --> 02:27:55,860
the nere

3521
02:28:06,251 --> 02:28:01,771
he's awesome yeah Ram Dass is is is in

3522
02:28:09,261 --> 02:28:06,261
it and pretty much if David Lynch right

3523
02:28:12,591 --> 02:28:09,271
yeah and you know of course Michelle

3524
02:28:14,930 --> 02:28:12,601
Rodriguez but it's a it's an amazing

3525
02:28:16,700 --> 02:28:14,940
documentary I recommend it highly I'm

3526
02:28:21,440 --> 02:28:16,710
gonna look that up right now yeah yeah

3527
02:28:24,591 --> 02:28:21,450
they did the reality of truth Man Man

3528
02:28:26,780 --> 02:28:24,601
Man Man you know you just want to hold

3529
02:28:30,261 --> 02:28:26,790
Michelle there's a couple of times in

3530
02:28:33,560 --> 02:28:30,271
the movie where she is right on the edge

3531
02:28:35,720 --> 02:28:33,570
of which we all want to be at that point

3532
02:28:39,560 --> 02:28:35,730
but she's literally questioning

3533
02:28:41,180 --> 02:28:39,570
everything you know I mean yeah I've got

3534
02:28:43,490 --> 02:28:41,190
I'm not playing around let's let's take

3535
02:28:45,110 --> 02:28:43,500
a break right here and we'll pick up

3536
02:28:46,881 --> 02:28:45,120
with it let's do a little overtime

3537
02:28:48,171 --> 02:28:46,891
normally we say good night right here

3538
02:28:52,310 --> 02:28:48,181
we're not going to do that let's uh

3539
02:28:55,160 --> 02:28:52,320
let's keep this going it's too good yeah

3540
02:28:56,961 --> 02:28:55,170
absolutely stay with us this is a fade

3541
02:29:00,150 --> 02:28:56,971
to black our guest tonight caught on key

3542
02:29:25,761 --> 02:29:00,160
I'll be right back stay with us

3543
02:29:34,700 --> 02:29:29,250
my boy Jimmy Church Jimmy Church

3544
02:29:41,820 --> 02:29:34,710
radio.com this my popular opinion

3545
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3546
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3547
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3548
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3624
02:33:34,710 --> 02:33:47,450
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3625
02:33:52,540 --> 02:33:49,770
welcome back fade to black I've no super

3626
02:34:02,030 --> 02:33:57,920
again tonight for long we are talking

3627
02:34:05,359 --> 02:34:02,040
about well we do this is gonna say it's

3628
02:34:07,849 --> 02:34:05,369
my I I have we have talked about

3629
02:34:10,939 --> 02:34:07,859
everything tonight we've gotten it all

3630
02:34:12,260 --> 02:34:10,949
on the table I just got a question it

3631
02:34:14,750 --> 02:34:12,270
just popped up in Twitter there's a

3632
02:34:16,519 --> 02:34:14,760
bunch of him here but what was the

3633
02:34:19,399 --> 02:34:16,529
documentary that you did the soundtrack

3634
02:34:23,870 --> 02:34:19,409
for I was actually titled ayahuasca and

3635
02:34:27,830 --> 02:34:23,880
that came out in like 2015 it's 2016 at

3636
02:34:31,429 --> 02:34:27,840
2016 okay and so that's that's what it's

3637
02:34:33,410 --> 02:34:31,439
called simply ayahuasca people can they

3638
02:34:36,590 --> 02:34:33,420
can check it out it through Aubry Marcus

3639
02:34:38,689 --> 02:34:36,600
calm he's the CEO of on it but he also

3640
02:34:40,490 --> 02:34:38,699
does a lot around kind of sharing with

3641
02:34:43,219 --> 02:34:40,500
the world about you know various plant

3642
02:34:44,599 --> 02:34:43,229
teachers and yeah he's definitely a his

3643
02:34:46,069 --> 02:34:44,609
website though through there you'll

3644
02:34:48,500 --> 02:34:46,079
you'll find the links and I think

3645
02:34:50,719 --> 02:34:48,510
there's a short link that goes there as

3646
02:34:52,969 --> 02:34:50,729
well but I think that's the easiest way

3647
02:34:57,099 --> 02:34:52,979
sabri Marcus calm yeah there you go

3648
02:35:01,189 --> 02:34:57,109
now the reason why I say that I'm scared

3649
02:35:05,599 --> 02:35:01,199
is and I want to share this with

3650
02:35:08,899 --> 02:35:05,609
everybody the reason why sometimes were

3651
02:35:11,269 --> 02:35:08,909
scared of the answers that's you know

3652
02:35:12,889 --> 02:35:11,279
and and there's this you know you don't

3653
02:35:19,639 --> 02:35:12,899
want to open up the Pandora's box

3654
02:35:22,309 --> 02:35:19,649
alright and and maybe maybe some are

3655
02:35:27,319 --> 02:35:22,319
just comfortable in the incorrectness of

3656
02:35:29,540 --> 02:35:27,329
their life you said the key word comfort

3657
02:35:34,880 --> 02:35:29,550
right right and they were comfortable

3658
02:35:38,030 --> 02:35:34,890
and the the idea of being into a

3659
02:35:42,109 --> 02:35:38,040
situation that I'm not 100% fully in

3660
02:35:46,729 --> 02:35:42,119
control of because you are not right you

3661
02:35:49,340 --> 02:35:46,739
are not and when I have heard the

3662
02:35:52,280 --> 02:35:49,350
different descriptions of you know here

3663
02:35:56,389 --> 02:35:52,290
you know a DMT ten minutes in and out

3664
02:35:59,450 --> 02:35:56,399
right 15 minutes in and out well okay

3665
02:36:04,551 --> 02:35:59,460
but that's 15 minutes where I am not in

3666
02:36:07,040 --> 02:36:04,561
control and so there's that part of it

3667
02:36:09,700 --> 02:36:07,050
you know and that's that's that's what

3668
02:36:12,410 --> 02:36:09,710
I'm and it would have to be the absolute

3669
02:36:15,230 --> 02:36:12,420
perfect situation perfect setting

3670
02:36:17,440 --> 02:36:15,240
perfect shaman perfectly you know the

3671
02:36:20,390 --> 02:36:17,450
mood the Sun the Moon the Stars

3672
02:36:23,751 --> 02:36:20,400
everything has got to be perfect for me

3673
02:36:25,850 --> 02:36:23,761
to consider it and I just haven't been

3674
02:36:28,551 --> 02:36:25,860
at that point then close though I've

3675
02:36:30,560 --> 02:36:28,561
been close I'll admit I've been I've

3676
02:36:34,301 --> 02:36:30,570
been in situations where it was right

3677
02:36:37,490 --> 02:36:34,311
there now and this is the other thing

3678
02:36:43,910 --> 02:36:37,500
let me ask you this very direct by the

3679
02:36:46,370 --> 02:36:43,920
way let's suppose you and I and Rita

3680
02:36:49,640 --> 02:36:46,380
right okay we're down in Peru

3681
02:36:53,780 --> 02:36:49,650
we're down in Peru perfect setting right

3682
02:36:56,390 --> 02:36:53,790
mountaintop everything you know and and

3683
02:37:00,200 --> 02:36:56,400
it's just right there and we are were

3684
02:37:00,530 --> 02:37:00,210
six hours in okay all right are you with

3685
02:37:03,830 --> 02:37:00,540
me

3686
02:37:06,860 --> 02:37:03,840
six hours into ceremonies after drinking

3687
02:37:11,720 --> 02:37:06,870
we are we are six hours in we are

3688
02:37:12,230 --> 02:37:11,730
official we are at the note no turning

3689
02:37:14,650 --> 02:37:12,240
back

3690
02:37:20,390 --> 02:37:14,660
okay so anyway we're six hours in and

3691
02:37:23,810 --> 02:37:20,400
then something real happens a light

3692
02:37:27,341 --> 02:37:23,820
comes down from the sky descends and is

3693
02:37:30,440 --> 02:37:27,351
in front of us and and that happens

3694
02:37:33,140 --> 02:37:30,450
we're already into a life-changing

3695
02:37:35,810 --> 02:37:33,150
ceremony and then something like that

3696
02:37:39,381 --> 02:37:35,820
happens during the ceremony that is out

3697
02:37:42,440 --> 02:37:39,391
of our control do we remember that does

3698
02:37:46,671 --> 02:37:42,450
that affect us does that change the

3699
02:37:49,251 --> 02:37:46,681
ceremony what would happen you know for

3700
02:37:51,381 --> 02:37:49,261
you that is you know you've experienced

3701
02:37:55,551 --> 02:37:51,391
this enough that if something like that

3702
02:37:57,801 --> 02:37:55,561
happen then you know then how are we

3703
02:38:00,560 --> 02:37:57,811
changed and that is something else that

3704
02:38:04,400 --> 02:38:00,570
I'm a little bit afraid of you know the

3705
02:38:07,251 --> 02:38:04,410
combination of the reality of the 2d

3706
02:38:10,131 --> 02:38:07,261
world that we live in and something like

3707
02:38:15,860 --> 02:38:10,141
that happens during this where we are

3708
02:38:17,850 --> 02:38:15,870
someplace else so the question is what

3709
02:38:20,160 --> 02:38:17,860
do we do what would happen

3710
02:38:22,770 --> 02:38:20,170
what would happen because the two worlds

3711
02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:22,780
are colliding aren't they yeah I guess

3712
02:38:26,990 --> 02:38:25,210
oh that's interesting you know when you

3713
02:38:30,660 --> 02:38:27,000
say the two worlds you mean just there's

3714
02:38:32,400 --> 02:38:30,670
the kind of waking life let's call it

3715
02:38:35,460 --> 02:38:32,410
that's right and then there's kind of

3716
02:38:37,680 --> 02:38:35,470
the life where we start to go into the

3717
02:38:40,230 --> 02:38:37,690
other realms of the unseen world correct

3718
02:38:41,400 --> 02:38:40,240
yeah and then there's another layer that

3719
02:38:43,290 --> 02:38:41,410
you throw one there of this light

3720
02:38:44,970 --> 02:38:43,300
descending so are you referring to two

3721
02:38:47,460 --> 02:38:44,980
extraterrestrial comes that's right yes

3722
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:47,470
yes yes yeah so there's kind of three

3723
02:38:50,761 --> 02:38:49,090
yeah you've the three dimensions kind of

3724
02:38:53,551 --> 02:38:50,771
all working together in that in that the

3725
02:38:56,880 --> 02:38:53,561
three vectors I mean to be totally

3726
02:38:58,230 --> 02:38:56,890
honest I think when you're when I've

3727
02:39:02,280 --> 02:38:58,240
been in that space and I can only speak

3728
02:39:05,551 --> 02:39:02,290
to I guess my own experience you very

3729
02:39:09,180 --> 02:39:05,561
much in connected to a total connection

3730
02:39:11,820 --> 02:39:09,190
so totally empathic all psychic channels

3731
02:39:14,130 --> 02:39:11,830
open ability to perceive the

3732
02:39:15,570 --> 02:39:14,140
unperceptive all tuned into like the

3733
02:39:17,910 --> 02:39:15,580
most my new like I can hear like

3734
02:39:21,330 --> 02:39:17,920
individual drops of rain and see them

3735
02:39:22,920 --> 02:39:21,340
with my inner vision as a are hitting

3736
02:39:24,780 --> 02:39:22,930
the maloca you know the ceremonial lodge

3737
02:39:26,400 --> 02:39:24,790
if you will that falling from you know

3738
02:39:29,700 --> 02:39:26,410
sky and I can see them in

3739
02:39:31,801 --> 02:39:29,710
three-dimensional space so it's you're

3740
02:39:33,660 --> 02:39:31,811
so tuned in and I've actually it's it's

3741
02:39:36,120 --> 02:39:33,670
like I feel if we were in that scenario

3742
02:39:37,710 --> 02:39:36,130
and you know supposing and that we are

3743
02:39:41,220 --> 02:39:37,720
then visit at that time I star beings I

3744
02:39:45,240 --> 02:39:41,230
would almost say it's it's um yeah it's

3745
02:39:46,830 --> 02:39:45,250
actually it's kind of normal mm it's

3746
02:39:49,380 --> 02:39:46,840
kind of normal because when when I'm in

3747
02:39:51,511 --> 02:39:49,390
that space and I've been in that space

3748
02:39:54,210 --> 02:39:51,521
I've been visited by so many beings and

3749
02:39:56,011 --> 02:39:54,220
these beings are you know they they've

3750
02:39:58,170 --> 02:39:56,021
never had bad intention like I've never

3751
02:40:00,660 --> 02:39:58,180
had personally I know people's talk

3752
02:40:03,240 --> 02:40:00,670
about having more difficult experiences

3753
02:40:05,430 --> 02:40:03,250
but I there's something that I always

3754
02:40:07,080 --> 02:40:05,440
take with me and in kind of you said it

3755
02:40:10,470 --> 02:40:07,090
there you said you know kind of the fear

3756
02:40:11,670 --> 02:40:10,480
of the discomfort because is what I'm

3757
02:40:13,140 --> 02:40:11,680
you know filling in the blank when you

3758
02:40:14,790 --> 02:40:13,150
say like you know fear of not being

3759
02:40:17,130 --> 02:40:14,800
comfortable or like right what's gonna

3760
02:40:18,990 --> 02:40:17,140
come right and so I really I really

3761
02:40:20,880 --> 02:40:19,000
think that Pink Floyd hit it on the on

3762
02:40:23,850 --> 02:40:20,890
the head right in his famous lyrics you

3763
02:40:26,011 --> 02:40:23,860
know of comfortably numb' right it's

3764
02:40:28,140 --> 02:40:26,021
like we've become comfortably numb in

3765
02:40:31,590 --> 02:40:28,150
our society and I feel that's the

3766
02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:31,600
biggest fear is that we're scared too

3767
02:40:36,300 --> 02:40:34,090
sure outside of our comfort zone and in

3768
02:40:37,679 --> 02:40:36,310
so doing our comfort zone actually is

3769
02:40:40,019 --> 02:40:37,689
not a comfort zone it's actually a

3770
02:40:42,570 --> 02:40:40,029
prison there's literally bars there and

3771
02:40:44,340 --> 02:40:42,580
we're like we're free in America we're

3772
02:40:47,010 --> 02:40:44,350
actually not free we're free to consume

3773
02:40:48,570 --> 02:40:47,020
you're free to buy stuff that's about as

3774
02:40:50,280 --> 02:40:48,580
free as you really are when you get down

3775
02:40:52,320 --> 02:40:50,290
to it and so it's like it's kind of a

3776
02:40:54,300 --> 02:40:52,330
really harsh awakening and I think the

3777
02:40:56,070 --> 02:40:54,310
matrix to draw another kind of parallel

3778
02:40:58,639 --> 02:40:56,080
there you know the movie The Matrix

3779
02:41:00,960 --> 02:40:58,649
right that concept was very beautiful

3780
02:41:03,059 --> 02:41:00,970
beautifully executed right the red pill

3781
02:41:05,130 --> 02:41:03,069
the blue pill and so it's like are you

3782
02:41:09,090 --> 02:41:05,140
ready to get jettisoned out of your

3783
02:41:11,939 --> 02:41:09,100
comfortable nice steak meal and and get

3784
02:41:13,859 --> 02:41:11,949
thrown out into the cosmos and what's

3785
02:41:15,570 --> 02:41:13,869
gonna happen it's like yes that is the

3786
02:41:19,620 --> 02:41:15,580
great unknown now here's the beauty of

3787
02:41:22,139 --> 02:41:19,630
it there there is so much beauty in that

3788
02:41:24,540 --> 02:41:22,149
unknown and the fact is you're always in

3789
02:41:26,309 --> 02:41:24,550
the unknown it's all unknown man you

3790
02:41:29,399 --> 02:41:26,319
could get up tomorrow get in your car go

3791
02:41:31,769 --> 02:41:29,409
to your 8:00 to 5:00 and be head head on

3792
02:41:34,260 --> 02:41:31,779
collision and you're gone and you just

3793
02:41:36,599 --> 02:41:34,270
don't know like if that's the fact right

3794
02:41:38,639 --> 02:41:36,609
you never got those answers you don't we

3795
02:41:40,889 --> 02:41:38,649
don't we actually don't and so when

3796
02:41:42,540 --> 02:41:40,899
we're able to go to that edge and

3797
02:41:44,189 --> 02:41:42,550
actually go within a good context you've

3798
02:41:45,870 --> 02:41:44,199
done your homework you're sitting with

3799
02:41:48,030 --> 02:41:45,880
someone who is of integrity which is

3800
02:41:49,769 --> 02:41:48,040
essential you've gotten good references

3801
02:41:51,090 --> 02:41:49,779
you're sitting in a place that you know

3802
02:41:53,399 --> 02:41:51,100
is a good place they're holding that

3803
02:41:56,189 --> 02:41:53,409
medicine in a good way in a lineage way

3804
02:41:58,439 --> 02:41:56,199
and and it's you're going there with a

3805
02:42:00,179 --> 02:41:58,449
clear heart yourself a brave heart

3806
02:42:02,849 --> 02:42:00,189
because it does require the brave heart

3807
02:42:05,040 --> 02:42:02,859
there's no joke it is this is not light

3808
02:42:06,420 --> 02:42:05,050
work but it's not like we're not I'm

3809
02:42:08,099 --> 02:42:06,430
just gonna go have a drink it's like

3810
02:42:10,290 --> 02:42:08,109
you're gonna go have a drink but this is

3811
02:42:12,599 --> 02:42:10,300
a drink that rather than you know

3812
02:42:14,280 --> 02:42:12,609
drinking so much that you purge the

3813
02:42:17,010 --> 02:42:14,290
heba's drink that you're supposed to

3814
02:42:19,080 --> 02:42:17,020
purge and the purge is welcomed and they

3815
02:42:20,939 --> 02:42:19,090
call it getting well and this getting

3816
02:42:23,580 --> 02:42:20,949
well is because you're literally pulling

3817
02:42:25,920 --> 02:42:23,590
toxins this plant medicine is taking

3818
02:42:28,050 --> 02:42:25,930
stuff that is not good it's taking out

3819
02:42:30,660 --> 02:42:28,060
the bad so that you can put in the good

3820
02:42:32,519 --> 02:42:30,670
and the difference between weird saying

3821
02:42:34,139 --> 02:42:32,529
earlier about the 15-minute DMT

3822
02:42:35,849 --> 02:42:34,149
experience or even some people it's

3823
02:42:38,820 --> 02:42:35,859
really fast like five minutes the peak

3824
02:42:41,490 --> 02:42:38,830
right versus a four to six hour

3825
02:42:43,229 --> 02:42:41,500
you know ayahuasca ceremony sometimes a

3826
02:42:45,180 --> 02:42:43,239
little longer you would read up your

3827
02:42:48,780 --> 02:42:45,190
dose but typically in that range

3828
02:42:50,640 --> 02:42:48,790
is that why she's gentle like I said

3829
02:42:53,160 --> 02:42:50,650
she's a mother or grandmother she's an

3830
02:42:54,301 --> 02:42:53,170
elder spirit that doesn't wanna she's

3831
02:42:56,190 --> 02:42:54,311
not trying to beat you up

3832
02:42:58,080 --> 02:42:56,200
now Pete not to say people don't have

3833
02:42:59,881 --> 02:42:58,090
some rough experiences maybe they got a

3834
02:43:01,801 --> 02:42:59,891
lot of toxic stuff that they're dealing

3835
02:43:03,930 --> 02:43:01,811
with and literally purging out and like

3836
02:43:05,850 --> 02:43:03,940
I've heard stuff come into the bucket

3837
02:43:07,740 --> 02:43:05,860
the purge bucket that sounds like glass

3838
02:43:09,960 --> 02:43:07,750
man stuff that you're like how the hell

3839
02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:09,970
was that even in me and people would

3840
02:43:13,920 --> 02:43:12,010
poured all kinds of stuff but afterwards

3841
02:43:16,381 --> 02:43:13,930
they feel amazing they feel totally

3842
02:43:19,140 --> 02:43:16,391
rejuvenate totally healed transformed

3843
02:43:21,841 --> 02:43:19,150
truly and I think the price that you pay

3844
02:43:23,310 --> 02:43:21,851
for a little discomfort it's it's so

3845
02:43:24,810 --> 02:43:23,320
worth it man that price of entry is

3846
02:43:26,640 --> 02:43:24,820
actually super low when you really get

3847
02:43:28,500 --> 02:43:26,650
down to it not to mention when you get

3848
02:43:30,360 --> 02:43:28,510
present with the fact that you're always

3849
02:43:33,270 --> 02:43:30,370
in the unknown you just you have the

3850
02:43:35,790 --> 02:43:33,280
illusion it's totally a fabrication this

3851
02:43:37,290 --> 02:43:35,800
is it's a hologram that you're safe and

3852
02:43:38,670 --> 02:43:37,300
that everything's gonna work because you

3853
02:43:40,320 --> 02:43:38,680
know the government shuts down

3854
02:43:41,341 --> 02:43:40,330
look who's our president look look

3855
02:43:43,950 --> 02:43:41,351
what's happening right now on the planet

3856
02:43:45,180 --> 02:43:43,960
like it's crazy Antarctica is melting as

3857
02:43:46,320 --> 02:43:45,190
we speak and people are still want to

3858
02:43:49,530 --> 02:43:46,330
debate about it you know what I mean

3859
02:43:51,390 --> 02:43:49,540
it's like okay it comes down to the fact

3860
02:43:53,280 --> 02:43:51,400
that this is an opportunity for people I

3861
02:43:54,750 --> 02:43:53,290
think if you're ready and I'm not saying

3862
02:43:56,850 --> 02:43:54,760
by the way and all this I don't want to

3863
02:43:58,500 --> 02:43:56,860
advocate it all day that's the only way

3864
02:44:00,960 --> 02:43:58,510
I think you can totally reach these

3865
02:44:02,370 --> 02:44:00,970
states just through using dance just

3866
02:44:04,350 --> 02:44:02,380
through using music just there using

3867
02:44:06,511 --> 02:44:04,360
breath just through meditation like

3868
02:44:08,970 --> 02:44:06,521
there's so many roads to take you up

3869
02:44:11,490 --> 02:44:08,980
this mountain yeah but it is a powerful

3870
02:44:13,740 --> 02:44:11,500
road and for those who are like ready

3871
02:44:16,261 --> 02:44:13,750
and courageous and ready to do the inner

3872
02:44:18,270 --> 02:44:16,271
work and get I would argue is kind of

3873
02:44:20,190 --> 02:44:18,280
like get the Cannonball you know you

3874
02:44:22,200 --> 02:44:20,200
could hike up this with meditation or

3875
02:44:24,240 --> 02:44:22,210
you could get like the cannonball launch

3876
02:44:25,950 --> 02:44:24,250
you you know the through the cannon up

3877
02:44:28,860 --> 02:44:25,960
to the top for a little while

3878
02:44:30,780 --> 02:44:28,870
and you know and the thing is DMT that

3879
02:44:32,190 --> 02:44:30,790
five-minute peak experience that's gonna

3880
02:44:35,460 --> 02:44:32,200
launch you so fast that you're probably

3881
02:44:36,690 --> 02:44:35,470
gonna miss most of the key wisdom like

3882
02:44:38,250 --> 02:44:36,700
you said am I gonna remember this

3883
02:44:40,051 --> 02:44:38,260
afterwards right probably not gonna

3884
02:44:41,551 --> 02:44:40,061
remember the really important things to

3885
02:44:43,770 --> 02:44:41,561
be honest because it's just so much so

3886
02:44:46,710 --> 02:44:43,780
fast and we don't have the bandwidth you

3887
02:44:48,631 --> 02:44:46,720
know more forgetful beings but I she's

3888
02:44:50,820 --> 02:44:48,641
actually very masterful the combination

3889
02:44:53,011 --> 02:44:50,830
the technology those plans it creates a

3890
02:44:55,230 --> 02:44:53,021
portal of that six hours that's just

3891
02:44:58,320 --> 02:44:55,240
about the sweet spot where you actually

3892
02:44:59,130 --> 02:44:58,330
can have full-on dialog and communicate

3893
02:45:01,979 --> 02:44:59,140
and actually

3894
02:45:03,599 --> 02:45:01,989
member and have retention when you come

3895
02:45:06,420 --> 02:45:03,609
out and be able to journal down and

3896
02:45:09,389 --> 02:45:06,430
actually walk away with some powerful

3897
02:45:12,269 --> 02:45:09,399
insights and lessons and and yeah it

3898
02:45:14,010 --> 02:45:12,279
changed human and I feel so if I were to

3899
02:45:15,689 --> 02:45:14,020
choose if I were to recommend one over

3900
02:45:17,849 --> 02:45:15,699
the other if we're just looking at these

3901
02:45:19,260 --> 02:45:17,859
two things it's two possible paths right

3902
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:19,270
I would definitely recommend sitting

3903
02:45:23,130 --> 02:45:21,520
with I I feel like DMT is an isolated

3904
02:45:25,979 --> 02:45:23,140
molecules like anything it's like Farm

3905
02:45:28,500 --> 02:45:25,989
pharmacology right yeah you get you get

3906
02:45:30,090 --> 02:45:28,510
all the bang but you miss the you miss

3907
02:45:31,500 --> 02:45:30,100
the wisdom you miss you know what I mean

3908
02:45:33,719 --> 02:45:31,510
you kind of get the effect even get a

3909
02:45:35,340 --> 02:45:33,729
lot of visuals but you miss really what

3910
02:45:36,660 --> 02:45:35,350
you're going there to do it I'm not just

3911
02:45:38,370 --> 02:45:36,670
going for the light show that's actually

3912
02:45:40,200 --> 02:45:38,380
the boring part to me once you've done

3913
02:45:41,610 --> 02:45:40,210
this work enough you get and talk to

3914
02:45:43,170 --> 02:45:41,620
quit on littles and the shamans and

3915
02:45:44,460 --> 02:45:43,180
they'll tell you that's just the light

3916
02:45:46,349 --> 02:45:44,470
show that's just kind of make you like

3917
02:45:49,110 --> 02:45:46,359
be able to sit there long enough but the

3918
02:45:51,179 --> 02:45:49,120
real the real important work is the

3919
02:45:52,710 --> 02:45:51,189
insights that you get and that's the

3920
02:45:54,840 --> 02:45:52,720
communication that comes through and

3921
02:45:56,820 --> 02:45:54,850
it's sometimes visceral sometimes it's a

3922
02:45:58,830 --> 02:45:56,830
dream it's a vision sometimes it's just

3923
02:46:00,330 --> 02:45:58,840
literally a feeling that overwhelms you

3924
02:46:02,340 --> 02:46:00,340
like suddenly self-love like maybe

3925
02:46:03,929 --> 02:46:02,350
you've just been really feeling like you

3926
02:46:05,639 --> 02:46:03,939
hating yourself and hating your life and

3927
02:46:08,130 --> 02:46:05,649
just really depressed and all of a

3928
02:46:10,590 --> 02:46:08,140
sudden you you're shown what it feels

3929
02:46:17,939 --> 02:46:10,600
like to love yourself again you know and

3930
02:46:20,550 --> 02:46:17,949
yeah it's a cyclical thing too I every

3931
02:46:22,649 --> 02:46:20,560
time my last experience I should say

3932
02:46:25,910 --> 02:46:22,659
going up to II study where I was up

3933
02:46:29,910 --> 02:46:25,920
there for you know seven eight days

3934
02:46:31,800 --> 02:46:29,920
completely free of chemicals and alcohol

3935
02:46:34,710 --> 02:46:31,810
and everything else is eating healthy

3936
02:46:35,370 --> 02:46:34,720
and out there with nature no television

3937
02:46:39,389 --> 02:46:35,380
no radio

3938
02:46:41,130 --> 02:46:39,399
you know nothing and you go through that

3939
02:46:42,479 --> 02:46:41,140
and there's a lot of really cool things

3940
02:46:45,719 --> 02:46:42,489
that are going down you're making

3941
02:46:47,519 --> 02:46:45,729
contact and there's spiritual things

3942
02:46:50,670 --> 02:46:47,529
that are happening on the ground and

3943
02:46:54,000 --> 02:46:50,680
it's just it's it's just cleansing and

3944
02:46:56,849 --> 02:46:54,010
incredible then you get on a plane and

3945
02:47:00,929 --> 02:46:56,859
you fly back to LA and you immediately

3946
02:47:02,969 --> 02:47:00,939
get off the plane and onto a freeway and

3947
02:47:07,349 --> 02:47:02,979
I was just looking around going you know

3948
02:47:09,570 --> 02:47:07,359
what I don't want to be here and it's

3949
02:47:11,910 --> 02:47:09,580
there's the shock to the system and you

3950
02:47:15,570 --> 02:47:11,920
look around and the infrastructure

3951
02:47:20,340 --> 02:47:15,580
of of everything in place for everybody

3952
02:47:23,070 --> 02:47:20,350
day to day to make Los Angeles work

3953
02:47:25,950 --> 02:47:23,080
right it's a very complex living

3954
02:47:29,610 --> 02:47:25,960
breathing thing that is a giant city

3955
02:47:31,860 --> 02:47:29,620
like this right and it's it's a it's a

3956
02:47:35,070 --> 02:47:31,870
transition where you you start to

3957
02:47:38,810 --> 02:47:35,080
question everything you know and and and

3958
02:47:40,590 --> 02:47:38,820
and I've gone through that with no

3959
02:47:43,230 --> 02:47:40,600
psycho

3960
02:47:45,420 --> 02:47:43,240
you know psychedelics right you know

3961
02:47:47,340 --> 02:47:45,430
what I'm like oh yeah no I've done it a

3962
02:47:49,110 --> 02:47:47,350
lot myself I mean you know I don't know

3963
02:47:50,969 --> 02:47:49,120
if you know this I'm also a Sun dancer

3964
02:47:53,820 --> 02:47:50,979
which there's a whole other conversation

3965
02:47:55,320 --> 02:47:53,830
but it's it's it's a very important

3966
02:47:56,940 --> 02:47:55,330
lineage of one of the seven sacred

3967
02:47:59,850 --> 02:47:56,950
ceremonies that is passed down through

3968
02:48:02,250 --> 02:47:59,860
the Lakota Sioux and tribes in I've been

3969
02:48:04,140 --> 02:48:02,260
honored to be adopted by family into

3970
02:48:06,630 --> 02:48:04,150
into dance and that's part of my Road is

3971
02:48:08,400 --> 02:48:06,640
the spiritual you know person and in

3972
02:48:09,750 --> 02:48:08,410
that just to summarize with a lot of

3973
02:48:10,770 --> 02:48:09,760
people probably maybe you've heard of it

3974
02:48:13,110 --> 02:48:10,780
you've probably heard of it cuz of a

3975
02:48:14,670 --> 02:48:13,120
festival a movie festival but it's a lot

3976
02:48:16,620 --> 02:48:14,680
more it's they got the name from this

3977
02:48:17,520 --> 02:48:16,630
this very ancient ceremony in Detroit

3978
02:48:19,560 --> 02:48:17,530
that's right yeah

3979
02:48:21,630 --> 02:48:19,570
in that ceremony you know you don't use

3980
02:48:24,330 --> 02:48:21,640
any entheogenic plants you don't use any

3981
02:48:26,340 --> 02:48:24,340
any medicine plants but you work I mean

3982
02:48:28,200 --> 02:48:26,350
maybe tobacco I guess you could call it

3983
02:48:30,240 --> 02:48:28,210
that because that is a master plant but

3984
02:48:32,670 --> 02:48:30,250
we work specifically with just working

3985
02:48:35,340 --> 02:48:32,680
with no food no water dancing from

3986
02:48:37,290 --> 02:48:35,350
sunrise to sunset and purifying with

3987
02:48:39,360 --> 02:48:37,300
sweat lodge you know just sweating right

3988
02:48:40,950 --> 02:48:39,370
now you're in prayer for those four days

3989
02:48:43,110 --> 02:48:40,960
and the only way your body can

3990
02:48:45,450 --> 02:48:43,120
physically make it through that is if

3991
02:48:47,940 --> 02:48:45,460
you can really anchor yourself in the

3992
02:48:50,520 --> 02:48:47,950
pre end of your prayers cuz if you think

3993
02:48:52,290 --> 02:48:50,530
about how much your body hurts or how

3994
02:48:54,929 --> 02:48:52,300
much like you're thirsty and how hungry

3995
02:48:56,700 --> 02:48:54,939
you are you were in hell but the moment

3996
02:48:58,620 --> 02:48:56,710
you shift your focus out to like why

3997
02:48:59,730 --> 02:48:58,630
you're there dancing and that you start

3998
02:49:01,080 --> 02:48:59,740
thinking about all the people that

3999
02:49:03,120 --> 02:49:01,090
you've known in your life all their

4000
02:49:04,890 --> 02:49:03,130
faces come to you in that moment and you

4001
02:49:07,650 --> 02:49:04,900
start sending them your prayers it's

4002
02:49:08,969 --> 02:49:07,660
ancient technology man it opens up this

4003
02:49:11,700 --> 02:49:08,979
portal and you start to receive visions

4004
02:49:14,130 --> 02:49:11,710
without anything no external substance

4005
02:49:16,350 --> 02:49:14,140
just what's built in into your body and

4006
02:49:17,730 --> 02:49:16,360
so it's all in us in fact we don't need

4007
02:49:19,770 --> 02:49:17,740
all the external stuff and we don't need

4008
02:49:21,120 --> 02:49:19,780
actually these plants necessarily we can

4009
02:49:22,920 --> 02:49:21,130
get there like I said with other things

4010
02:49:24,960 --> 02:49:22,930
and I encourage people to do that

4011
02:49:25,801 --> 02:49:24,970
there's a lot of my work is even though

4012
02:49:28,110 --> 02:49:25,811
I have this

4013
02:49:31,261 --> 02:49:28,120
background it's about encouraging people

4014
02:49:33,751 --> 02:49:31,271
to sobriety is actually such a powerful

4015
02:49:36,870 --> 02:49:33,761
team when we can just be in our sobriety

4016
02:49:38,551 --> 02:49:36,880
in access these states in that state and

4017
02:49:39,990 --> 02:49:38,561
realize that it's all built in the nura

4018
02:49:41,551 --> 02:49:40,000
in the neural chemistry is all in our

4019
02:49:42,841 --> 02:49:41,561
brain already and I actually you know

4020
02:49:44,881 --> 02:49:42,851
when I was at Duke I studied the

4021
02:49:46,650 --> 02:49:44,891
neuroscience and one of my best friends

4022
02:49:47,700 --> 02:49:46,660
that I worked in a neurobiology lab he's

4023
02:49:49,440 --> 02:49:47,710
another Brazilian his name was

4024
02:49:50,761 --> 02:49:49,450
Siddhartha which is a great name

4025
02:49:52,860 --> 02:49:50,771
he was like got Woody's that we both

4026
02:49:54,990 --> 02:49:52,870
practice cup wedded together and and he

4027
02:49:57,751 --> 02:49:55,000
we rap about this forever his whole

4028
02:49:59,790 --> 02:49:57,761
thing was he wanted to figure out how to

4029
02:50:01,020 --> 02:49:59,800
activate the anand amide it's already in

4030
02:50:03,780 --> 02:50:01,030
our brain so that you don't have to

4031
02:50:05,610 --> 02:50:03,790
smoke weed you know the THC is just it's

4032
02:50:07,110 --> 02:50:05,620
an analog to the inanimate it's already

4033
02:50:09,600 --> 02:50:07,120
endogenously produced by the best

4034
02:50:11,940 --> 02:50:09,610
correct that's correct yeah right so so

4035
02:50:14,220 --> 02:50:11,950
so how just like DMT just you know

4036
02:50:16,020 --> 02:50:14,230
exactly massive amounts of DMT right but

4037
02:50:18,211 --> 02:50:16,030
we get those those psychedelic amounts

4038
02:50:20,551 --> 02:50:18,221
comment near death right or at birth and

4039
02:50:22,620 --> 02:50:20,561
death or if we have a near-death

4040
02:50:24,780 --> 02:50:22,630
experience so it's fascinating right

4041
02:50:26,520 --> 02:50:24,790
that that's all in us and so all you

4042
02:50:28,950 --> 02:50:26,530
have to do if you know the right way to

4043
02:50:29,370 --> 02:50:28,960
unlock that which music can do by the

4044
02:50:31,410 --> 02:50:29,380
way

4045
02:50:33,060 --> 02:50:31,420
so can dance which is why that's been

4046
02:50:36,030 --> 02:50:33,070
used by all peoples around the world

4047
02:50:37,890 --> 02:50:36,040
right Eve with no extra substances and

4048
02:50:39,390 --> 02:50:37,900
so I feel like that's really the key and

4049
02:50:41,280 --> 02:50:39,400
I really encourage people it's like if

4050
02:50:42,751 --> 02:50:41,290
you can master that and get to that

4051
02:50:44,850 --> 02:50:42,761
state just through the meditation

4052
02:50:45,841 --> 02:50:44,860
through the breath work you're there

4053
02:50:48,120 --> 02:50:45,851
you're winning the game because

4054
02:50:49,261 --> 02:50:48,130
ultimately and this kind of gets back to

4055
02:50:50,850 --> 02:50:49,271
what you were saying about what do you

4056
02:50:52,921 --> 02:50:50,860
do when you get back to LA and there's

4057
02:50:54,540 --> 02:50:52,931
the city it's the piece called

4058
02:50:56,341 --> 02:50:54,550
integration and it's probably the

4059
02:50:58,110 --> 02:50:56,351
biggest piece that people miss when they

4060
02:50:59,520 --> 02:50:58,120
go to do this kind of work is the

4061
02:51:01,650 --> 02:50:59,530
integration work they don't give

4062
02:51:03,600 --> 02:51:01,660
themselves the time or the space to

4063
02:51:05,251 --> 02:51:03,610
actually integrate now what you've just

4064
02:51:07,770 --> 02:51:05,261
received this jewel you've just been

4065
02:51:10,410 --> 02:51:07,780
given and and III liken it to the

4066
02:51:12,720 --> 02:51:10,420
analogy of a fresco of a painting you

4067
02:51:14,430 --> 02:51:12,730
just had this beautiful painting made

4068
02:51:16,921 --> 02:51:14,440
right and all these oils are on this

4069
02:51:19,350 --> 02:51:16,931
canvas that was you know you just gotten

4070
02:51:21,421 --> 02:51:19,360
blasted this amazing canvas you can't

4071
02:51:23,400 --> 02:51:21,431
just go and put your hand across the

4072
02:51:26,461 --> 02:51:23,410
canvas you literally got to give it a

4073
02:51:28,171 --> 02:51:26,471
little time it's to set otherwise it's

4074
02:51:30,060 --> 02:51:28,181
just gonna become this mess of colors

4075
02:51:31,530 --> 02:51:30,070
and I think it's very much like that

4076
02:51:33,720 --> 02:51:31,540
with with any of this work it's like

4077
02:51:36,600 --> 02:51:33,730
give yourself at least some buffer time

4078
02:51:39,060 --> 02:51:36,610
as you're coming the reentry time before

4079
02:51:40,350 --> 02:51:39,070
you go back to your day to day grind of

4080
02:51:41,940 --> 02:51:40,360
like more important almost in the

4081
02:51:43,950 --> 02:51:41,950
ceremony days is give yourself an extra

4082
02:51:45,211 --> 02:51:43,960
week like your weekend ceremony give

4083
02:51:47,671 --> 02:51:45,221
yourself another week of just

4084
02:51:49,261 --> 02:51:47,681
integrating that ceremony at least and

4085
02:51:50,910 --> 02:51:49,271
actually you need more time but you know

4086
02:51:53,251 --> 02:51:50,920
I know people have day jobs or whatever

4087
02:51:54,541 --> 02:51:53,261
but give that self to yourself because

4088
02:51:56,610 --> 02:51:54,551
it's so important because if you don't

4089
02:51:57,961 --> 02:51:56,620
do that you really are doing yourself a

4090
02:52:00,330 --> 02:51:57,971
disservice and you're more than likely

4091
02:52:02,131 --> 02:52:00,340
actually gonna create there's the

4092
02:52:03,120 --> 02:52:02,141
potential to create more issues than it

4093
02:52:04,650 --> 02:52:03,130
more harm than good

4094
02:52:07,680 --> 02:52:04,660
and you're gonna go right back to the

4095
02:52:08,970 --> 02:52:07,690
cycle exactly and even in the worst

4096
02:52:11,131 --> 02:52:08,980
place because then you like you said you

4097
02:52:13,110 --> 02:52:11,141
might be even more pumped out because

4098
02:52:15,060 --> 02:52:13,120
you're like what am i freakin doing in

4099
02:52:17,280 --> 02:52:15,070
this machine that's right and then you

4100
02:52:20,160 --> 02:52:17,290
know what I find is that because I've

4101
02:52:21,900 --> 02:52:20,170
done this enough you know you come back

4102
02:52:23,791 --> 02:52:21,910
after being disconnected and you get

4103
02:52:25,860 --> 02:52:23,801
back to LA and you know you go through

4104
02:52:27,541 --> 02:52:25,870
that bummed out period in fact you're

4105
02:52:30,301 --> 02:52:27,551
always you know man maybe we should just

4106
02:52:33,001 --> 02:52:30,311
get a cabin in the mountains right by

4107
02:52:35,671 --> 02:52:33,011
totally two days later it's all

4108
02:52:38,280 --> 02:52:35,681
forgotten right you're right back into

4109
02:52:41,700 --> 02:52:38,290
the grind you're right it becomes a

4110
02:52:43,381 --> 02:52:41,710
distant memory because you have to you

4111
02:52:45,961 --> 02:52:43,391
have to participate in everything Los

4112
02:52:48,511 --> 02:52:45,971
Angeles you can't you can't go against

4113
02:52:50,160 --> 02:52:48,521
the grain here the matrix yeah you won't

4114
02:52:54,120 --> 02:52:50,170
survive you won't survive you're

4115
02:52:56,041 --> 02:52:54,130
swimming with sharks and it's just so

4116
02:52:58,261 --> 02:52:56,051
funny so so what do you do you know and

4117
02:53:00,001 --> 02:52:58,271
that's a great question is like so what

4118
02:53:02,251 --> 02:53:00,011
do you do and I feel so the integration

4119
02:53:05,341 --> 02:53:02,261
piece is one and then the next piece of

4120
02:53:06,990 --> 02:53:05,351
that is find your tribe find your

4121
02:53:09,150 --> 02:53:07,000
community you know there's a lot of

4122
02:53:10,650 --> 02:53:09,160
people now even in LA I've actually I

4123
02:53:13,740 --> 02:53:10,660
know a lot of these communities they're

4124
02:53:16,140 --> 02:53:13,750
amazing communities there that the work

4125
02:53:19,410 --> 02:53:16,150
in transformational healing arts and

4126
02:53:22,440 --> 02:53:19,420
have gatherings and work to kind of keep

4127
02:53:25,110 --> 02:53:22,450
this spirit alive keep our spirits alive

4128
02:53:26,730 --> 02:53:25,120
and activated and juiced up so that we

4129
02:53:29,400 --> 02:53:26,740
can continue to affect change because

4130
02:53:31,410 --> 02:53:29,410
the worst is you get jaded you get you

4131
02:53:33,301 --> 02:53:31,420
just go right back into the COG you know

4132
02:53:35,100 --> 02:53:33,311
there's a cog in the machine and I think

4133
02:53:36,870 --> 02:53:35,110
the real the real important thing is to

4134
02:53:38,970 --> 02:53:36,880
find your support community your tribe

4135
02:53:40,740 --> 02:53:38,980
and some people do that you know they go

4136
02:53:42,511 --> 02:53:40,750
to transformational festivals you know

4137
02:53:43,950 --> 02:53:42,521
there's a whole there's numerous scenes

4138
02:53:45,870 --> 02:53:43,960
one of the big ones that I recommend

4139
02:53:47,791 --> 02:53:45,880
people check out la has an amazing

4140
02:53:50,940 --> 02:53:47,801
ecstatic dance community and I don't if

4141
02:53:52,590 --> 02:53:50,950
you familiar with ecstatic dance it you

4142
02:53:55,950 --> 02:53:52,600
heard of that yes yes of course

4143
02:53:58,410 --> 02:53:55,960
okay yeah so and of course you know all

4144
02:54:00,719 --> 02:53:58,420
of the disclosure fests guys they have

4145
02:54:02,460 --> 02:54:00,729
an amazing community in LA now that you

4146
02:54:03,660 --> 02:54:02,470
know it's a beautiful network of people

4147
02:54:06,179 --> 02:54:03,670
you know it's kind of like my CLO

4148
02:54:08,910 --> 02:54:06,189
network that are very interconnected and

4149
02:54:11,189 --> 02:54:08,920
create events and create conscious kind

4150
02:54:13,080 --> 02:54:11,199
of gatherings that continue to help feed

4151
02:54:14,639 --> 02:54:13,090
this work that we're all doing because I

4152
02:54:17,099 --> 02:54:14,649
feel like we need it if we feel like

4153
02:54:18,719 --> 02:54:17,109
we're eilean aided and isolated which is

4154
02:54:21,149 --> 02:54:18,729
what's happening to a lot of us and it's

4155
02:54:23,040 --> 02:54:21,159
so ironic is the web as much as it seems

4156
02:54:24,330 --> 02:54:23,050
to like oh it's all interconnected now

4157
02:54:25,830 --> 02:54:24,340
the other way if it's like we're

4158
02:54:27,689 --> 02:54:25,840
actually more isolated than ever right

4159
02:54:28,920 --> 02:54:27,699
and kind of disconnected because we're

4160
02:54:31,439 --> 02:54:28,930
just looking at these screens all the

4161
02:54:33,929 --> 02:54:31,449
time and we lose the the empathic

4162
02:54:35,070 --> 02:54:33,939
connection with each other right so I

4163
02:54:36,899 --> 02:54:35,080
feel like it's really important so

4164
02:54:38,010 --> 02:54:36,909
ecstatic dance is amazing community I'm

4165
02:54:40,559 --> 02:54:38,020
actually gonna be playing there on my

4166
02:54:42,120 --> 02:54:40,569
tour for the album release at the they

4167
02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:42,130
have a dome there called the wisdom and

4168
02:54:45,450 --> 02:54:44,800
I'm playing there just in a couple weeks

4169
02:54:48,330 --> 02:54:45,460
right

4170
02:54:51,210 --> 02:54:48,340
wait wait wait wait wait wait the album

4171
02:54:53,609 --> 02:54:51,220
release is when oh so the album is

4172
02:54:55,469 --> 02:54:53,619
dropping March first the new album which

4173
02:54:56,939 --> 02:54:55,479
is a live album that I thought it was I

4174
02:54:58,679 --> 02:54:56,949
thought it was later on in May it's

4175
02:55:01,530 --> 02:54:58,689
March first yeah

4176
02:55:03,269 --> 02:55:01,540
March first in a month it's yeah yeah

4177
02:55:05,130 --> 02:55:03,279
it's the pre-release is already active

4178
02:55:06,780 --> 02:55:05,140
it's on my website for Tanguy calm so

4179
02:55:08,130 --> 02:55:06,790
people can already they can pre-order it

4180
02:55:10,349 --> 02:55:08,140
and already start streaming one of the

4181
02:55:12,300 --> 02:55:10,359
songs their tone unseen which means

4182
02:55:14,550 --> 02:55:12,310
Mother Earth and now what and the Aztec

4183
02:55:17,309 --> 02:55:14,560
tongue and there's gonna be the rest are

4184
02:55:19,050 --> 02:55:17,319
all gonna go live March first and I'm

4185
02:55:21,809 --> 02:55:19,060
doing a release tour and on that tour

4186
02:55:24,420 --> 02:55:21,819
we're actually gonna be playing at it in

4187
02:55:28,320 --> 02:55:24,430
San Diego at trilogy on the 22nd and

4188
02:55:30,780 --> 02:55:28,330
then the 2024 we're in LA at the wisdom

4189
02:55:31,800 --> 02:55:30,790
it's called and it's this 360 dome

4190
02:55:34,410 --> 02:55:31,810
they're gonna be doing this amazing

4191
02:55:36,719 --> 02:55:34,420
projection mapping super visionary kind

4192
02:55:39,570 --> 02:55:36,729
of visuals to go with music and it's

4193
02:55:43,019 --> 02:55:39,580
ecstatic dance la presents and that's on

4194
02:55:47,250 --> 02:55:43,029
March 24th that's happening February

4195
02:55:48,809 --> 02:55:47,260
24th february 24th in yes the lead up

4196
02:55:51,599 --> 02:55:48,819
this is all the lead-up to the album

4197
02:55:53,880 --> 02:55:51,609
launch win in March first then we go up

4198
02:55:56,399 --> 02:55:53,890
to San Francisco and Nevada City Nevada

4199
02:55:58,830 --> 02:55:56,409
cities the 28th I play there and -

4200
02:56:00,630 --> 02:55:58,840
foundry that's like the night of the

4201
02:56:03,540 --> 02:56:00,640
album launch and then on the first I

4202
02:56:05,250 --> 02:56:03,550
play in in San Francisco at Oakland

4203
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:05,260
sweets Ballroom the historic Ballroom

4204
02:56:08,400 --> 02:56:06,250
there

4205
02:56:09,660 --> 02:56:08,410
again ecstatic dance presents and so

4206
02:56:12,179 --> 02:56:09,670
this is the ecstatic dance community

4207
02:56:13,860 --> 02:56:12,189
they love what I do because they're used

4208
02:56:17,460 --> 02:56:13,870
to DJ's and I'm one of the few people

4209
02:56:19,200 --> 02:56:17,470
that come in and do it all live and it's

4210
02:56:20,460 --> 02:56:19,210
pretty epic so if you get to experience

4211
02:56:22,740 --> 02:56:20,470
this anyone in those areas we were

4212
02:56:24,840 --> 02:56:22,750
listening come out because you get to

4213
02:56:27,030 --> 02:56:24,850
really experience what I do which is to

4214
02:56:28,980 --> 02:56:27,040
channel into all of you and like make

4215
02:56:31,200 --> 02:56:28,990
this journey you know to move our body

4216
02:56:33,300 --> 02:56:31,210
and really get into these these spaces

4217
02:56:35,760 --> 02:56:33,310
that we're talking about just using the

4218
02:56:38,429 --> 02:56:35,770
good old technology of the body dance

4219
02:56:42,330 --> 02:56:38,439
and music you know is the entire tour

4220
02:56:43,440 --> 02:56:42,340
schedule up on app or on gay.com yes yes

4221
02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:43,450
the tour dates are there there's gonna

4222
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be a few more dates added the ones I

4223
02:56:48,510 --> 02:56:46,120
just mentioned are gonna you're getting

4224
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finalized details so that's kind of but

4225
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that's those are the dates gonna be

4226
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March 1st at Auckland sweets Ballroom 28

4227
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at miners foundry and then the other day

4228
02:56:57,750 --> 02:56:56,590
it's already up there I believe thank

4229
02:57:00,510 --> 02:56:57,760
you so much what a great conversation

4230
02:57:02,900 --> 02:57:00,520
tonight I had so much fun and you know

4231
02:57:08,429 --> 02:57:02,910
this is this is what I really enjoy is

4232
02:57:15,240 --> 02:57:08,439
when you can combine music food culture

4233
02:57:18,420 --> 02:57:15,250
dance and UFOs all in one conversation

4234
02:57:21,929 --> 02:57:18,430
we all win I I do these are the things

4235
02:57:23,730 --> 02:57:21,939
that interest me and it it went right

4236
02:57:25,650 --> 02:57:23,740
there tonight thank you so much man

4237
02:57:26,700 --> 02:57:25,660
great conversation you got it Jimmy yeah

4238
02:57:28,679 --> 02:57:26,710
I really appreciate you having me on

4239
02:57:30,960 --> 02:57:28,689
really a treat to connect with you more

4240
02:57:32,940 --> 02:57:30,970
yeah that first conversation we had

4241
02:57:35,070 --> 02:57:32,950
before the the big disclosure fest in DC

4242
02:57:41,580 --> 02:57:35,080
was just like a teaser so this is sweet

4243
02:57:44,309 --> 02:57:41,590
yeah totally let's see Reed over at the

4244
02:57:47,790 --> 02:57:44,319
end of oh oh I see what you're saying

4245
02:57:48,420 --> 02:57:47,800
Rita okay actually pouring stay right

4246
02:57:51,270 --> 02:57:48,430
there

4247
02:57:54,750 --> 02:57:51,280
I'm gonna run credit but I need to talk

4248
02:57:56,010 --> 02:57:54,760
to you after after I sign off so just

4249
02:58:00,270 --> 02:57:56,020
stay right there I'm gonna put you on

4250
02:58:03,059 --> 02:58:00,280
hold okay thank you so much okay let's

4251
02:58:04,139 --> 02:58:03,069
uh let's wrap it what a great show

4252
02:58:08,279 --> 02:58:04,149
tonight now

4253
02:58:10,019 --> 02:58:08,289
it's what I need calm at just go to

4254
02:58:12,870 --> 02:58:10,029
Jimmy Church radio click on the links

4255
02:58:16,050 --> 02:58:12,880
right there full tour schedule the album

4256
02:58:18,630 --> 02:58:16,060
drops on March 1st so it'll all be over

4257
02:58:21,989 --> 02:58:18,640
right there to me church radio calm very

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02:58:24,120 --> 02:58:21,999
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of Kumari on shows fruits by Hill J palm

4260
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Renae Dennis and Bob announcers our

4261
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4262
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our webmaster is drew the geek music

4263
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doug aldrich intro space boys space boy

4264
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4266
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4267
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a 2019 by fade to black and the game

4268
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4269
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it cannot be rebroadcast downloaded

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copied or used anywhere in the known

4271
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universe without written permission from

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fade to black or the game changer

4273
02:59:02,670 --> 02:58:59,529
network our meals jimmy church follow me

4274
02:59:05,630 --> 02:59:02,680
on twitter @jj church radio tomorrow

4275
02:59:07,551 --> 02:59:05,640
night right here author researcher

4276
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patrick wood

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until tomorrow night I want everybody to